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Give us a clue

Can anyone help identify these RM special tools.

http://lpbpsroutemaster.fotopic.net/c1748951.html

Well, I think that they are RM tools.

Many Thanks

Rob Duker

Re: Give us a clue

Hi Rob

No 2 is the rear hub nut flogging spanner.

I shall be at the RM garage tomorrow and will get the definitive names and what they are for from the workshop manager there.

Got an idea about 3,4 and 5 but never seen No1


Claire

My bus number (if any): RML 2330 etc

Re: Give us a clue

Hi Rob

Yep they are all RM tools:

No 1 is a 'Scorpion' and this is used to lift out and in the front boat coil spring and shocker along with it's mounting plate. One person using the scorpion lifts it in and a second person shoves a bottle jack under the assembly to support it whilst the first person gets the scorpion out of the way. Good tool to have

No 2 is as I said and the RT uses a similar tool but different hub nut size. Point to remember the hub nuts undo the same as wheel nuts ie undo forward and do up backwards irrespective of which side of the bus.

No 5 this should have a straight shaft and it's to undo/do up the diff drain plug. I can understand the bend though, it would certainly help if you wanted to get extra purchase by adding a short handel of scaffold tube or similar over the tool shaft. Not everyone has the power of 'superman'.

No 4 These are feeler gauges to aid in adjusting the gearbox brake bands. The little bit at right angles on each end is the feeler gauge bit.

No 3 None of us have ever seen one of these but the consencious of opinion is that this is specialist equipment for adjusting/setting/checking that the original type of gear/speed selector 'Brain'is working as it should. Wouldn't normally be part of the garage engineering equipment whereas the other 4 are.

I stand to be corrected on No 3 if anyone know exactly what it's for and more importantly how to use it.

Regards

Claire

My bus number (if any): RML 2330 etc

Re: Give us a clue

Claire Green

No 2 is as I said and the RT uses a similar tool but different hub nut size. Point to remember the hub nuts undo the same as wheel nuts ie undo forward and do up backwards irrespective of which side of the bus.


What is the floating collar that goes around the hex? My hub nut spanner like the picture doesn't have this, so is it for the hub nut or for something else? What is the across flats measurement of yours Rob?


Claire Green
No 3 None of us have ever seen one of these but the consencious of opinion is that this is specialist equipment for adjusting/setting/checking that the original type of gear/speed selector 'Brain'is working as it should. Wouldn't normally be part of the garage engineering equipment whereas the other 4 are.

Writing at top of box of tricks says Manual Over ride so it is a brain test or cycle unit but don't think for RM looking at the various elements ie light for low air and switches for throttle kick down (dip) and retarder stages 1 and 2 - what type of plug is at the end of the pig tail lead?

Mark

My bus number (if any): RM1414 sort of

Re: Give us a clue

Hi

The collar fits over and is bolted to the half shaft studs so that you don't get it falling on your feet when you use the hammer. RT ones don't have this cos saftey for workers was never on the agenda in those days, thats why it's called a 'flogging' hammer. If you open the piccy to it's bigger size you'll see the hammer marks on the end of it. The RM spanner is about 2 feet long and heavier that I can lift and the RT one is a bit longer.

Claire

My bus number (if any): RML 2330 etc

Re: Give us a clue

No 3 is used to set and /or adjust the gearbox in conjunction with No 4.

It's a very hard to find item and it makes the adjustment simplicity itself proving you know how to use it. All I can tell you is that the knob in the left hand bottom corner will if rotated slowly to the right, allow adjustment of 3 and 4. 1 and 2 can be done prior to 3 and 4.

Sorry everyone but I don't know any more than that.

Regards

Claire

My bus number (if any): RML 2330 etc

Re: Give us a clue

Claire Green
No 3 is used to set and /or adjust the gearbox in conjunction with No 4.

It's a very hard to find item and it makes the adjustment simplicity itself proving you know how to use it. All I can tell you is that the knob in the left hand bottom corner will if rotated slowly to the right, allow adjustment of 3 and 4. 1 and 2 can be done prior to 3 and 4.


1 and 2 gears can be engaged when the vehicle is stationary, moving the selector into 3 and 4 when stationary will give you still neutral and 2nd.

By giving the brain a speed signal it will then let you engage 3 and 4 with the selector and get 3 and 4 whilst still stationary thus being able to check brake band adjustment or in the case of forth (direct)gear piston movement and what shims/spacers are needed

mark

My bus number (if any): RM1414 sort of

Re: Give us a clue

If you read this before and think it has changed it has, I misunderstood what my brother told me, so correcting it.

Picture 1.jpg is as Claire says front spring hoist, 2.jpg is a flange spanner for gearbox and diff,3 is a gearbox test/control panel 4.jpg as stated earlier a gearbox band gauge and 5 is not known although the curved handle might have thrown him.

Re: Give us a clue

Hi Brian

I didn't know that there was a garage at Fulham :-)

Youre right in LT times but in the 90's they had one at AR and thats how the man I spoke to knew how to use it because he was there at that time but now, fortunatly, is next door to our garage. :-)

Thats good that it can do 2 jobs, BOGOF :-)

Claire

My bus number (if any): RML 2330 etc

Re: Give us a clue

Sorry Claire
I should have left the original message and posted a correction. Most of the gearbox shop supported Fulham and we all met up there. The inspector. Brian Girling now sadly dead and Dave Winton who was also became an inspector, both played for Chiswick General third team. I was in the Blacksmith's shop for a few months which was not far from the gearboxes so we used to chat quite a lot and I watched gearboxes getting tested many times. Dave thinks that flange spanner is for gearboxes and diffs, not hubs, but admits its 25 years or more since he touched one!!

My bus number (if any): RMC 1485 and RTL 960 plus loads of RTs

Re: Give us a clue

Thanks everyone - those who have e-mailed me directly and posted replies on the site. I will update the pictures, but I do have a few other bits that need identifying and if I get a chance I'll post those picture as well.
Regards
Rob

http://rob-duker.fotopic.net/

My bus number (if any): Various (unable to list them as the wife is sitting next to me!)