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OLD-reg London RTs

Just found a photo of OLD 620 on Facebook after it had been converted into a 'Flower Power' bus back in the 1960s, OLD 831 was in 'Routemaster, Little Platform, Big Stage' and as many 'On the Buses' fans know, poor old OLD 666 was torched in the episode 'No Smoke without Fire'

I always though this was the best of the RT registrations as they did have that veteran look about them compared to the more modern-looking Routemasters. my question is does anyone know what year the 'OLD' RTs were built and when the last of that batch were withdrawn from London service?

My bus number (if any): RM967 (Driver & Restoration Consultant), bus is owned by Tom Ireland

Re: OLD-reg London RTs

OLD 621 was RTL 1511.not an RT.

The very last RTs numerically were NXP registrations.
The RTs were not like the RMs and delivered more or less in numerical order, the RTs were built in batches by the various body builders with buses 2000 apart in number being delivered at the same time EG In April 1950 RT 1338 and 3106 were delivered and entered service.

There were 4 batches of RT OLD registrations RTs 4447 - 4556,1/54 RTs 4715- 4749, also 1/54 RTs 4750 - 4783 4/54 and RT 4794 (last one delivered 9/54). RTLs from RTL 1475 to 1631 were OLD registrations as were RM 1 and RM 2.

No OLD registered RTs were in service on the last day at Barking. The last one in use without checking every single bus, was probably RT 4496 with LCBS as trainer still in 1980.

My bus number (if any): RTL 960, RMC 1458 RM 1585, (M 961, M 271 - both sold) and several RTs

Re: OLD-reg London RTs

Brian Watkinson
OLD 621 was RTL 1511.not an RT.

The very last RTs numerically were NXP registrations.
The RTs were not like the RMs and delivered more or less in numerical order, the RTs were built in batches by the various body builders with buses 2000 apart in number being delivered at the same time EG In April 1950 RT 1338 and 3106 were delivered and entered service.

There were 4 batches of RT OLD registrations RTs 4447 - 4556,1/54 RTs 4715- 4749, also 1/54 RTs 4750 - 4783 4/54 and RT 4794 (last one delivered 9/54). RTLs from RTL 1475 to 1631 were OLD registrations as were RM 1 and RM 2.

No OLD registered RTs were in service on the last day at Barking. The last one in use without checking every single bus, was probably RT 4496 with LCBS as trainer still in 1980.


Thanks Brian, would be nice if some of that batch had made it into preservation.

My bus number (if any): RM967 (Driver & Restoration Consultant), bus is owned by Tom Ireland

Re: OLD-reg London RTs

I still remember working on a few RTs at NB JXN 18 and OLD 700, MXX 37 and fixing a boiled over HLX 90 at Ealing Broadway which I think was an HW bus.

Nice easy buses to look after. Full of character. Not so easy to restore though.

Re: OLD-reg London RTs

Your memory is good Jack.
OLD 700 (RT 4480) was an EX LCBS bus bought by LT, repainted red and sent to Kingston 10/72 to 9/76,
MXX 37 (RT 2949) was at NB 6/74 - 5/75.
JXN 18 (RT 990) after 5 years at NB from 1/70 went onto to replace RT 3669 as the Hammersmith Aldenham staff bus, lasting until 1/78.
HLX 90 (RT 273) was an HW bus, 10/73 - 11/74. None of these survived into preservation.

My bus number (if any): RTL 960, RMC 1458 RM 1585, (M 961, M 271 - both sold) and several RTs

Re: OLD-reg London RTs

Shame none survived, they were all top performers never needing much to keep them in top form. RT 990 was a great bus went like the clappers.

Re: OLD-reg London RTs

My school (Sheredes Hoddesdon) owned ex LCBS RT - OLD540 - we painted it turquoise blue/yellow and remember many a school trip in it driven by the school caretaker including a trip to Fords of Dagenham back in it's heyday - it was a sad day when the Barnsley breakers tow truck took it away - it was replaced though by RF 355 from Enfield Garage (off the 121's ?)- also repainted turquoise with yellow window surrounds - which last time I checked is still apparently exists owned by Alan Brown in some sort of state (5/00) - we went to Rugby in that for a week on narrow boats - it leaked water all the way up the M1 and back but it never boiled up or faltered !

My bus number (if any): RML 2747

Re: OLD-reg London RTs

I was trained at LCBS Riegate depot on a RT in 1978 and I believe there was another RT training vehicle there with a couple of RM's. I am sure the RT's were withdrawn in 1979 but still used on special occasions for another couple of years such as the 406f at the Epsom races.

My bus number (if any): SNB473

Re: OLD-reg London RTs

Just on the subject of OLD666, does anyone know the location where it was burnt in that episode of On The Buses?