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Re: This is why some of us remember September 4th.

Talk about facing a firing squad. Can't believe i was 2 back then

Re: This is why some of us remember September 4th.

Did only Leyland RMs have Simms Electrical equipment? I have heard that there was more problems with electrical equipment on the Leyland RMs.

Re: This is why some of us remember September 4th.

Not only Leyland engines had Simms electrical equipment, some AEC engined buses also had it.
There were not " problems" with Simms, it just became obsolete.
There was a programme of conversion of some RMs to CAV equipment on overhaul, I'm sure Neil G has mentioned it before.

My bus number (if any): RTL 960, RMC 1458, RM 1585 and several RTs

Re: This is why some of us remember September 4th.

Less than half of the Leyland RM`s had Simms equipment so those that did have it were in a minority.

Or, to put it another way there were many Leylands that didn`t have it and there were far more AEC engine Routemasters than Leylands that had Simms equipment including all of the RMC`s and the majority of the RML`s.

The first big batch of Leyland RM`s which ran up to the start of the RMC class had CAV electrics. The RMC`s and the next big batch of Leyland RM`s that followed on from the RMC`s both had the same type of Simms equipment. The final big Leyland batch were CAV.

The Simms equipment fitted to RML`s was of a different type to the RM`s.

As Brian said, there were some conversions of both RM`s and RML`s from Simms to CAV and these buses had their classification amended to a new sub-class.

Having worked at Mortlake Garage that had many Leyland RM`s with Simms electrics, I was never aware of particular problems and non-availability of buses for service wasn`t a Mortlake trait.