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Re: No Respect or Trust

Your view of family relations and "control" issues screams volumes about you, your relationships and the passive aggressive behavior which you probably experience. My wife is actually the person who has had more interactions with the schools and came to the conclusion first that our son's education was sub par at best. We all discussed the problems so evident in the MPS for years. Just did the best we could with what they offered. My son got out of MHS last year and had a successful 1st year of college. He worked hard and got the help he needed at the University. He did not feel as prepared as some of his peers. We will be voting "No on the Override" as individuals and as a family. We share some of the same reasons of why we are voting No and also have our own individual ones.

I wonder who you are trying to "CONTROL" which isn't working out as you want or who is controlling you?
Your family dynamics sound very different than the way our family interacts.

Re: No Respect or Trust

Unfortunaely, when it comes to the BOA, you have "the parade of the wooden soldiers" with the possible exception of
three members. In addition, they have no backup resource to check out the validty of what is presented to them by the
Mayor and CFO. It is mostly "this is what we need, take our word for it."

Re: No Respect or Trust

Show up tonight and protest the Override. Otherwise it will slide straight through to the ballot and then to your tax bill!

Re: No Respect or Trust

Just thought I'd repost these comments after the latest call to action by the clown patrol:
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Who are you anonymous crusaders? None of you had the courage to show your faces at the Alderman's meeting the other night...even after the head Bozo MFD's call to action. MFD chickened out too.

You guys would have been the zero man march, the Berlin wall would have been overtaken by, well, nobody. Anonymous Lives matter. What a pack of mewling, whining cowards. The reality is you have nothing really to rally around, just a small group of disgruntled losers.
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We all know is will just be same sh*t, different day this time around.

Re: No Respect or Trust

Shut up Vuvu

Re: No Respect or Trust

Let Clown Patrol talk:
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
His defense of the true Clown Patrol (the SC and BOA) removes all doubt.

Re: No Respect or Trust

How many Bozo's were at the meeting tonight? How many spoke publicly? Where was the chief bozo, MFD?

Re: No Respect or Trust

I was there and spoke about the need for the Board to take the time to evaluate the justification and need for an override and not to "rubber stamp" every request by the Mayor. Two other people spoke up saying the same thing. Of course there were a number of other parents who spoke about the need to fund additional school positions. Here is the kicker....Ms. Taymore admitted that, if the overrride passes a number of the positions it would fund would not be filled for the coming yeara since the vote will be in November and by then it will be too late to hire someone for the year. Most good teachers will have been hired by then.

This means that the extra money due to the override would not be used in the first year of the override and by law, it can be used for other things in the 2nd and subsequent years. In other words - it can be another big slush fund for the schools. Tell me how this override will improve student outcomes? The administration hasn't answered that question yet - but maybe Clown Patrol can!

Re: No Respect or Trust

Taymore's "want list" is just a ruse. She knew from the outset that the override would not fund any of those positions, because the election is in November. She is playing politics plain and simple. She has to keep Driscoll's "angels" in check by promising her and the LMS evangelist mommies that their precious elementary libraries will be fully resourced, whether or not it actually happens or even should. She has to placate the increasing body of justifiably worried sped parents that more staff is going to take care of The Problem (it won't, and she knows full well that the staff she has in place has not been competent either). She has to make the elected pols feel like they're "meeting the needs" of those who will reelect them and secure those GIC policies for life. She has to give Robbie a bunch of compelling-sounding talking points, regardless of whether they're true or not (and he wouldn't know the difference, nor would he care!). It's all a big shell game, and most of the pols voting for that boondoggle know it, too (there are admittedly some, like GI, PM, MBMM who are assuredly too dumb to know for sure but will always wave the flag and vote for soaking the taxpayers and rubber-stamping the wishes of Mr 26%.)

Combine all that with a ridiculously passive population, a large crop of really gullible young parents, a small but zealously effective charlatan parents hawking the administrative party line, and Melrose has the Perfect Storm about to hit it, complete with baseline increased water/sewer charges and new taxes on top of the outrageous increases already in place. Get out your checkbook and just stay quiet and at the beach, Melrose citizens! You have only yourselves to blame!

Re: No Respect or Trust

I am glad that MM and RB asked some very important questions last night. This extra money will go into a slush fund for what? Was there ever an answer from CT about the money already given to school for textbooks. PM shut that question down pretty fast There are way to many questions to be addressed. They never should have pushed this through for a vote. Also PM your microphone was on while you others were speaking. I will be voting no. I can not support this.

Re: No Respect or Trust

MFD the big bozo finally grew a pair and showed up. Tip of the hat for the effort. A little surprised you wanted to keep it off the ballot altogether...which still makes you a coward...albeit a coward brow beat into showing up and speaking.

Honk, Honk see you in the fall at the ballot box.

Re: No Respect or Trust

Here is the reason why the override should not be on the November ballot. We have a representative government -we elect these officials to evlauate, analyze and use their experience and good judgment on issues that come before them. It is impractical for each citizen to vote on every issue and that is why we elected these Aldermen - to vote in our place.

They had an order before them to vote on Thursday evening, order 2015-157, for a 2.2 million dollar override of Prop 2-1/2 and instead of spending any time in investigating, evaluating the data and information, and discussing this thoroughly and completely with city offcials and members of the public, they just simply took the easy way out.

Did you notice how Monica Medeiros, Don Conn, and Jaclyn Bird noted that such an order should be more thoroughly reviewed and time spent to better understand the rational and justification for such an increase in our taxes. But then they all caved in and said - let the residents have a say in this decision. Hey officals - news flash - we voted you all in to make the tough decisions after careful consideration - not to punt the problem to we voters!

Also, shouldn't those aldermen who are getting GIC health insurance, thanks to Mayor Dolan, be excused from voting since they have a financial interest in not bucking the Mayor's order?

Finally, we learned at the meeting that this extra 2.2 million dollars is only committed to the wish list for the first year - each year after that, the money goes into the general fund and used as the Mayor wants - a big fat slush fund! Ain't life wonderful when you are Mayor Dolan - Mayor for life! It doesn't get any better than this!!!!!

Respect and trust the citizens of Melrose

That is very elitist of you to think that our alderman know better than the general community and shouldn't even allow us a vote on something very important to this community. Of course, that is one of the themes of this message board - that anyone who supports Melrose and its schools is stupid and uninformed and has no idea what they were talking about - even those of us that have children in the schools who are having a positive experience, unlike most of the posters on this board who either don't have kids in the schools (like MFD) or have chosen somewhere else for them to go outside of the school system. I for one think that we are all smart enough people in this community that we don't need an intermediary regarding the budget and that we can actually vote for ourselves on this issue. Does this mean I think the override will pass? Actually I don't think it will - this town has a large elderly population that tends have a higher voter turnout and be more financially conservative - so it will be a high bar for the override to pass. But that doesn't mean that I think that vote shouldn't take place or that the Alderman should prevent it for my "own good" because I don't know any better to form the right opinion on what taxes I want to pay and where I want my tax money to go.

MFD, you were a supporter of Mortimer getting GIC - do you really think his receipt of it has anything to do with his support to put the override to a vote? Do you think that little of the BOA too? I guess you must be superior to all them too. I don't know the man or any alderman but they would get a HUGE amount of pressure from the community if they didn't allow the vote. They are not authorizing 2 1/2 million dollar tax hike. They are authorizing a vote for an override. There is a big difference.

Finally, do you truly believe that Dolan would be able to put $2.2 million into the 2015 school budget and then take it out in the 2016 budget without everyone being up in arms? Are you saying that the schools will hire all of those additional teachers and then fire them again the year after? If that is your reason not to put an override on the table, then you are grasping at straws.

Re: Respect and trust the citizens of Melrose

Smarten up - Funding - and stop being so gullible. If you watched the BOA meeting last night, Taymore already told us that many of those positions she wants will not be able to be filled because it will be so late in the year to hire them (after the November election). This means that a year will go by before they will use the money - which means it will be in the 2nd year which means they can use the money for anything! This is a con game they are playing with the public. The aldermen know all this and want no part of it - therefore - they punt to the public.

Also, in the override statement there is a request two additonal police officers -we need two additional police officers? Because we are such a high crime city? Even Chief Lyle had a problem justifying this request - but it was thrown in by the Mayor to placate the police - the chief was asked if these additonal officers will impact the police overtime account - he said no! Let that sink in for awhile and come back to me with a new look on this override - it's a con to get more money to float more money around all the special accounts hidden away to divy out to their favorite projects.

Remember that this 2.2 million annual bill is automatically added to each annual tax levy on us. If you vote for this package of override - seek medical help!

Re: Respect and trust the citizens of Melrose

MFD


Also, in the override statement there is a request two additonal police officers -we need two additional police officers? Because we are such a high crime city?


Isn't the Police department something like 20 men understaffed? I for one hear that, and would absolutely support two or even more Officers. MFD, I usually agree with you on the issues, but don't give us that "because we are such a high crime city" crap. We aren't Reading, we aren't Winchester, we aren't Lexington, you'd be ignorant to think crime does not happen here.

Re: Respect and trust the citizens of Melrose

A reasonable person has no cause to "trust" the citizens of Melrose to do anything right, if their pathetic lack of action the last few years is any indication. Melrose voters have turned out very poorly over many elections. They have not put forward enough good candidates for either the BOA or SC in a number of years. They allow travesties like the YMCA rapist who got away with harming our community's children (an untold number) for 14 years, and then circle around to protect those who looked the other way despite knowing that something very dark was happening. They allow a once quite reputable school system to disintegrate into the dysfunctional disgrace it is today, with nary a showing, except for the fun things or no-brainers. Melrose citizens have not demonstrated much in the way of commitment to high values or informed citizenship for a number of years now. Many young parents are not even registered to vote. No, Melrose is not the community of quality that it once was. It could regain some of its integrity if enough citizens decide that active participation in their governance was an important value again. Perhaps this override will function in a positive way, and bring the community back together instead of further divide it as our inept and bought politicians have now put this matter in our hands. But no, there isn't really much reason to hope that Melrose citizens will step up and look under the rug it has thrown many very deep problems for too long. But then hope is not exactly a thing based in reason, and it's a lot nicer world having hope. It would be even nicer if logic, common sense and reason could produce a more hopeful result in our community, particularly in improving the awful school system. The children deserve that.

This override is bad business. There is more than one rat to smell in all of it. Both the BOA and SC should be ashamed of themselves for their lack of due diligence. Many of us would be completely in favor of helping the schools (and of course the police department), but that is not what this override will do. It's just a bigger wallet for politicians who have no credibility at this point.

Re: Respect and trust the citizens of Melrose

Yes, the overall theme of this board again. The citizens are all stupid and it is up to the brilliant clan of MelroseMessages to dictate the right way to think. Why don't you write a letter to the editor with that attitude? I am sure you will get a lot of support.

Re: Respect and trust the citizens of Melrose

Couldn't give the proverbial rat's a$$ about getting "support" and am just fine expressing an opinion here, despite the parade of fools polluting the joint. Have at it. Couldn't be bothered with what Melrose calls its "Free Press". Have fun slaying your windmills protecting the "honor" of this dishonorable circus.