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Re: The Sale of Alcohol on Fairways at Mount Hood Golf Course - A Bad Idea

Soxboy
Since I pointed out the absurdities of your corrupting influence and safety menace arguments, it now moves on to the corruption argument.

Can't say I'm a big fan of the Mayor - a little too showy with his suburban progressivism for my tastes - but I don't know how you've extrapolated a beer cart to "satisfy[ing] his special interest groups" or "lubricat[ing] his financial wheels." That's quite the stretch!

The fact is it's a single beverage cart at Mt. Hood. Not a pot cart, or a cocaine cart, or whatever else your puritanical minds can dream up. Not doling out vodka shots to teens, not fueling drunken rampages through the streets. Just a beverage cart, as seen on thousands of golf courses all across America. No, the revenue isn't going to make any real difference. It doesn't matter - it would be fun to have and it would make a little money. That's all.

As H.L. Mencken said "Puritanism Is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."
Thank you, Soxboy! Well said. Do people think that this will cause an increase of drunken golfers coming in from everywhere just to get loaded? Get real. People who want a beer on the course are putting them in their bags anyway if they want. Lighten up Melrose andget off your lily-white Melrose perches.

Re: The Sale of Alcohol on Fairways at Mount Hood Golf Course - A Bad Idea

‘John from Melrose’: Today? Corned Beef, of course!!

Re: The Sale of Alcohol on Fairways at Mount Hood Golf Course - A Bad Idea

Nicely done, Geezer. Hope you enjoyed!

Re: The Sale of Alcohol on Fairways at Mount Hood Golf Course - A Bad Idea

Soxboy
With all due respect, no neighbor anywhere - not just Melrose - ever wants anything to change in their neighborhood. That's the definition of NIMBY, right?
As for somehow morally eroding our youth, that's been Melrose's MO for opposing fun roughly ever since it incorporated.
Not that it's prescient, but I would argue that Melrose youth already drink more alcohol in that park than any golfing crowd ever could!
And, while I'm here, a couple of isolated underage servings during the first Obama administration, years ago, seems like a stretch as far as not allowing a drink cart.
People just want to enjoy a cold beer while they play, it's not an assault upon property rights, morality, human decency, or anything else. Just a beer while we play.
Sorry, Soxboy, but you are way off base here! Anytime a situation is created where alcohol consumption is encourage or condoned - more drinking will occur - it is like decriminalizing drugs - once this is done - drug use increases - just a fact of life - human nature. And considering a drinking problem we have in Melrose - this is not a good thing - a terrible message to send to our kids also. Since you don't live near Mount Hood or have a family with young kids who have to deal with drunkenness and speeding up at Mount Hood.

Re: The Sale of Alcohol on Fairways at Mount Hood Golf Course - A Bad Idea

Thank you TBSports. While I disagree with, well, almost everything John and Resident have to say on this issue, he is right that the “No Fun in Melrose” crowd will show up at the hearing.
Therefore, it’s up to the rest of us to email our alder-people and Mayor to express our feelings. Please do so and, who knows, at least they’ll be made aware there is another constituency out there that takes a more non-absolutist view towards relaxing Melrose’s Victorian mindset.

Re: The Sale of Alcohol on Fairways at Mount Hood Golf Course - A Bad Idea

If golfers are already doing BYOB, then the rationale for having a beer cart is weakened, as potential revenues have to be netting against risk-costs of potential liability.

Re: The Sale of Alcohol on Fairways at Mount Hood Golf Course - A Bad Idea

Concerned Melrosian
If golfers are already doing BYOB, then the rationale for having a beer cart is weakened, as potential revenues have to be netting against risk-costs of potential liability.
Totally agree with you, concerned Citizen. These other idiots never had to deal with the fallout from golfers leaving the golf course and speeding through our community. Little do they understand that it you make alcohol available - people will consume it - then they go to the clubhouse - have a few more beers with the guys and they drive thorough our neighborhoods.

Little do these people know that the clubhouse had had 2 violations serving underage people in the last 10 years, having their liquor license pulled for awhile, just imagine how many may be served on the golf course when beverage cart staff are roaming the fairways trying to make an extra buck in tips! This is not only a stupid idea but dangerous for those people who live near Mount Hood.