You can easily make it appear as though there is a large following of Myronites who just can't wait to vote Dolan out of office. The hard part comes when you have to somehow produce all these fantasy people and ask them to file a ballot.
Boy, looks like some nerves were struck with all the "anti MM crowd" and "polling" posts of those who simply must minimize those who criticize the district. May as well be using the "haters" thing, except that maybe Robbie's playpen pals have finally cottoned onto the fact that this only makes him look like the malevolent fool that he is.
I think you are right about a nerve being struck with the "Let's attack the taxpayers who insist on integrity of our school administration and school committee" crowd. I think they are a little worried when a new topic on Melrose Messages pops up and there are over a thousand views in a matter of days. Comforting themselves by insisting that it is only Myron and 2 or 3 of his friends posting and viewing on MM is a sure sign they are worried.
As much as they spout it, no one believes the "everyone is 3 or 4 people" rant.
I totally believe there are only 4-5 people ranting against he Melrose schools - each one has a different writing style so it is pretty easy to identify them.
Believe whatever helps you sleep at night. Just the fact that several of you (or maybe it's 4-5[:-|]) need to try and minimize whatever the perceived impact with your silly numbers game shows that the impact is enough to be making your ilk (that word!) very nervous and insecure. Pretty easy to tell which camp is that immature. But that's okay. Just keep telling yourself it's only a couple of posters (you know, the "haters"), but that otherwise it's all good.
Only the delusional whiners would try to claim that a post (started by a public school supporter) would have 1,500 views from those solely critical of the MPS. Many people who are happy with and support MPS (like myself) like to check in and read the crazy sh*t the whiners are spinning from week to week.
If you really believe there are hundreds of parents who share your view stop relying on an anonymous blog. Organize, be public, and see how many supporters you clowns really have.
Public school supporter my a$$. The post was started by someone who proported to be searching for info on privates, even going so far as to say they were looking at MC, AP, BF, and AC when it was immediately apparent that she was misrepresenting herself, and was actually just another shill slamming the privates, even sinking so low as to claim she was the parent of a kid with a learning disability. You people are a disgrace, and it is becoming steadily more evident that you will stoop to any level of dishonesty to blow smoke around the truth.
These people really do think that the entire public is dumb enough to swallow this crap, even when it so poorly crafted as to be immediately obvious to anyone with a fifth grade education what their real purpose is. They're doing a great job of exposing themselves for what they really are, and they simply cannot stand that there are people who see through their baloney and recognize it for what it is - a pack of lies. This is the MO from the top down. It started with the arrival of the "education expert" in the center office, and over time this toxicity has become institutional behavior.
MC SAT scores (not great but certainly miles beyond MHS right now)
MC aggregate Average SAT Score
1800
MHS
1532
National Average
1720
State
1530
MC Detailed Test Results
Reading 590, Writing 610, Math 600, Aggregate 1800
MHS:
Reading 515, Writing 498, Math 519, Aggregate 1532
Apparently, you do not even need to go the private school route. Just get yourself in a charter school
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/03/18/gains-boston-charter-schools-outpace-those-district-peers-according-six-year-study/hCpVGMeEQvNODUvB6bXhcK/story.html
Well there it is. MC is clearly far ahead of MHS, even if it isn't up to the standard of many other private schools. But there's more than just the test results. It's the culture, too. Spend a few minutes with a large group of boys from either MC or MHS and it's easy to see and hear the difference. They all start out the same, drink the same milk, eat the same Cheerios. But count how many f-bombs you hear per minute in each group (when they're not being monitored by teachers, coaches). It's a stark and obvious difference right there, with many MHS kids simply unable to say a sentence without throwing the f-bomb in one or several times. Watch who leaves the most trash behind after an athletic meet and you'll also see a huge difference. MHS kids must think that a recycling truck follows them around to pick up their water bottles, with disgraceful amounts of mess left behind routinely. MC kids independently (without an adult asking them) go around and pick up trash, even from the opposing teams, and they don't even look miserable doing this. They shake your hand and look you in the eyes like mature citizens instead of turning away from adults as if they have no responsibility even to be polite. Does that mean that there aren't outliers? Of course not. Every school and community has those who never learned to be decent. But there is a general cultural sense at schools like MC of baseline decency and respect that used to prevail at MHS, too. Maybe that's what administration might focus on trying to improve instead of thinking that it makes itself look better by tactics like having MHS students hand out fake "Mrs MHS" letters that trash MC like Richards did on 8th grade parent night a few years ago.
Interesting comments in that student behavior typically reflects the behavior of their school and city administrators.
The Melrose kids that go to MC will be filling a steady stream of seats in B-rated colleges and state schools next year. MHS Senior class this year will destroy MC in college acceptances. Stop kidding yourselves. MC is a dumping ground for Melrose kids who were very average here and left because they couldn't compete in the classroom or on the playing fields.
MC:
Reading 590, Writing 610, Math 600, Aggregate 1800
MHS:
Reading 515, Writing 498, Math 519, Aggregate 1532
Figures don't lie. The good students flee the Melrose middle school and high school in droves. This contributes to the markedly lower MCAS scores in the Melrose system, as the cream goes off to private schools, seeking to flee a high school whose administration is the embarrassment of the metro Boston Area.
Those SAT scores are peddling the fraud that MC is. MC as an institution does not publish its standardized test scores. The Bozo who posted those numbers found them on a website where 23 students self reported their own scores. As stated earlier, MC is a dumping ground for kids who can'tcut it in Melrose. If your check clears you are in. MC is a complete joke.
Sorry, but the next step for someone who "can't cut it at MHS" would be the Fernald School, not MC.
MC does publish SAT scores right on their website. For 2012 the average combined score was 1634. That same year MHS was 1517. The nationwide average for 2013 was 1497.
Bear in mind MC has a program for weaker students in which they receive extra tutoring (that you pay for) As such the student body is closer to the surrounding public schools then their fellow CC schools like BCH or SJP.
In the past 5 years MC has sent 3 boys from MELROSE to Harvard and most years they send 2 from their graduating class. When was the last time MHS sent a BOY to an Ivy league school?
If you think MHS comes close to the educational rigor and expectations that MC provides you are ignorant.
My son graduated 3 years ago and it was worth the price of admission.
There it is.
Exactly 6 years ago. A boy whose mother is desperately trying (and failing though by no fault of hers) to get the system back on track. I am well aware of the recent successes of girls whose private options are more limited/expensive.
Present your facts...Real Facts..or don't bother us with your petty and biased opinions!
The great "Harvard" admission debate is where the smoke and mirrors actually lie. The kids from MC and Melrose would have gone to Harvard if they all switched places, went to Stoneham High School, or Belmont Hill. For those particular kids, the credit goes to them. The bigger smoke and mirror show is that Parochial schools in general do a better job educating kids than MHS. Overall College admission results show zero difference in college matriculation lists. Averages are BS. MC has 150 kids in each of its 4 classes. If you take the top 150 kids at MHS, and leave out the bottom 100, MHS blows MC away in all facets. On average, the Melrose kids that go to MC wind up at State schools or private colleges with high admission rates.
What faultless logic. Take the entire population of one class at MC and compare it to the top 150 at MHS, and call it even. So what about the other 100 at MHS? Are they statistically insignificant in your world?
Information is relevant when Clown number 1 puts false MC SAT score average data up in an attempt to make Melrose look bad, and Clown number 2 puts the allegedly accurate data up and tries to Segway into a couple of Melrose kids Harvard acceptance as the reason why MC is a better facility. Total horse sh*t.
The reality is MC, with 150 upper middle income families that can each shell out $70,000 for a private high school education, on average, should be statistically superior to 250 students comprised of all income levels, special needs, kids who don't care, etc. But the truth is, they still can't compete. MC is simply a dumping ground for kids who fled Melrose High for a variety of non-academic reasons. When you compare 150 kids with like backgrounds at MHS to the fleeing hoard at MC, MHS destroys them athletically, academically and in collegiate acceptances. Each year over 1/2 dozen sane parents who made the mistake of blowing $17,500 at MC bring their kids back to MHS.
You must have a real problem. You are one sick puppy with your crazed need to prove how great MHS is. Well, whatever helps you sleep at night....
Over 95 Melrose families send their sons to MC. I heard one returned to MHS this fall to play baseball. Can you identify the other 5 (at least per your comment)?
"Segway"
Ignorant a$$
If you choose to go to MHS or decide to go to private that is your decision! How immature is it to say nah nah nah my school is better than yours. It is so ridiculous. Stop bragging private school parents. How happy and content can you be if you constantly have to check to see if your school has better scores. If you are happy then just go with it . Sound like 2nd guessing to me. I could care less about any other school than the one my children attended
Your point about the small statistical sample is correct.
However, it used to be commonplace for MHS to send several students, male and female, each year to the most selective schools. Not any more. Sure, certain students have the intellectual wherewithal, work ethic, and cultural upbringing to succeed regardless of where they attended school. MHS used to be a place that fostered high achievement and pride in real things (not the superficial crap that so many are peddling now). Now the natural high achievers at MHS have to fight constant barriers to their success, starting with a lousy culture that includes a fair amount of cheating, bullying, grade inflation or over-compensating deflation that hurts all students, lack of respect for intellectual pursuits (starting with the arrogant and ignorant administrators), and a generally poor or at least vastly inexperienced/unknowledgeable caliber of too many in the teaching staff. (CT, by the way, has made it known that she is targeting all older teachers for removal because she can hire many more rookies with each of the senior staff that she bullies into leaving.)
The real fraud thinks comparing MHS to MC is unfair because girls are smarter than boys and more girls go to college than boys, but doesn't mention the fact that MC is populated by upper middle income families shelling out $70,000 for a high school education and MC spends no time or money on special needs students, behavioral issues or lower income families. What a f*cking joke. MC takes upper middle income students and provides them with a low quality education. Here is a comparison, compare the scores at MC to BC High and SJP, and you will really see what a complete waste of money MC is.
http://www.maldencatholic.org/page.cfm?p=804
Zach Zahner, Harvard
Back before 2008 there was a principal (1999-2006) who gets bullied here routinely. He was a principal who respected academics, who had basic humility and knew when to ask for help, who cared deeply for students (still does) and had the back of his teachers. He was tough, rough-hewn (to say the least--DOT all the way), and very effective. He also pi$$ed off many of the politically connected here because he tackled the issues head-on, said unflattering things, took on the a$$holes (especially those who were hurting kids directly). Like Dr. B or hate him, he worked around the clock and was/is committed to making things better for kids (real doctorate, by the way, from a real institution of learning--BC, and someone with real qualifications--as a math teacher, guidance counselor, coach). He had a natural sense of how to hire and retain the very best faculty (Dr. P, Dr. G, Dr. K, Mr. Lefebvre, Ms. Hiti, Mr. Schott, and many others) and he was not intimidated by those with strong academic credentials; in fact he sought out those teachers and knew how to convince them to come to MHS despite the low pay. Those in charge now are diametrically opposite in their hiring, seeking the cheapest, least-experienced faculty/staff, and in fact are arrogantly opposed to hiring those with real credentials. Dr. B was and is a leader. He took the heat, he left like a gentleman, and he continues to work in Melrose helping kids and the community (and giving generously, about to be Pres of Melrose Rotary next year). Since 2006 there has been a parade of carpetbagger hack administrators (MF is an exception in that regard, though she is anything but a leader, despite having been hired originally by DB.) A vacuum of real leadership is the bottom line reason for the miserable state of the district. The politically connected have now done everything they can to tar and feather this man, yet still he remains, helping wherever he can. Watch the viciousness after this post. Robbie knows that all of this is true and hopes that no one remembers that he would never have been mayor had it not been for this man helping him (until, of course, he worked with Kathie and Chris and Maureen to send the man packing in the middle of the year to fulfill their qui pro quo and hire JC--and everyone remembers what a success that was!). Now RD just hopes that the short-memoried Melrosians only align him to those fun MEF folks and their sycophant friends, and not to the man who helped him get elected (and stay elected) in the first place.
Melrose has had real leaders. It generally treats them despicably. There are a couple of genuine leaders in its midst currently, and it's pretty easy to see how they are being treated. The sad state of the Melrose schools is directly the fault of the community in failing to support the real leaders and instead either staying silent when it matters or joining up with the ignorant cabals. Until more in Melrose wake up and grow up, Melrose has only itself to blame for its miseries.
Real Fraud:
The Almighty says don't change the subject; just answer the f*cking question.
The private school track star isn't fooling anyone. MC cheerleader, fraud and not nearly as smart as she would like you to believe.
Returns starting to come for MHS AP and MC. It's looking like a complete rout by the Melrose on both the Boys & Girls sides. MHS boys are getting into top schools as are the girls. MC and AP crowd from Melrose on the State School pipeline. Tons of money spent by the private school crowd and little return on the dollar.
Good God almighty - what a total load of crap. Between MHS AP and MC. Really? What about the whole rest of of MHS, you blithering twit? And it's really not much of a surprise that MHS girls beat MC girls. Can you figure out why, you moron?? Un-freaking-believable.