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Override... Some stats and information and questions

Override failed and the school ranked higher on testing the following year. Not going to keep beating the dead horse there but is is important. It shows how large the picture is. Pay increases across the country, 2.9%..3%..The override calls for 6% that is unjustified. The teachers have been getting increases from their bargaining agreement but now 6% almost double a national average. That is one hefty amount. Where is the coming from?
Taymore makes $180,000..will she be getting 6%? That is an extremely large amount of money for someone pushing for the bill to go through.

With this override are we going to neglect the police department? I hope not.

Are we neglecting the library?

Are we neglecting the firefighters?

Are we investing any of this money into the police to help with safety of our schools.

Why are there reports indicating we are at a 20-1 ratio but yet we are hearing constant ratio issues? I have not found any data that shows a ratio issue. I found one indicating we were far below the state norm.

Why do articles about the prosperity of the school after failed overrides get deleted of taken off of sites?

I am simply asking because the Mayor and most of the Alderman don't have the answers. Monica Moderos asked for more information but was shut down, I heard it was because it was her Republican background... if that is so then that is pathetic. I want information so the voting is educated.

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Demand Truth and Accountability.

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Discover
Demand Truth and Accountability.
Yup you’re 100% right.
Demand a forensic audit and stop the BS.
Also push for term limits to get rid of the stampers!

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Speaking is the first battle, going to meetings, presented data, information. You have a right to say what you feel. you are not alone and you are a citizen of this community. if you have questions I say ask them... More people will follow! I am probably more new to town than mots on here and from what I have been reading and hearing I'm scared. More people need to demand information and if No is the answer then say it and say why...

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Truth scares so many but once you face it then you can correct it and I wish people would with this override. There might be a number but it is far from 5.18. At the first thought it was 275 a year in taxes then more than double overnight? The firs time the Mayor brought the subject forward it was a much smaller number than now but then again why does she have to loose she is not elected by the people and was PLACED into power by the select few. Never answers questions that might lean towards no on her blog or email. You give data or information on Yes she jumps and so do all the Alderman. But to them its soooooo simple its JUST putting it to the people. WRONG! You are suppose to vet these bills and propositions and ensure that the information being presented to the people you represent is accurate, clear, available and truthful. You have failed..plain and simple and there is the truth. Yes we should be allowed to vote but you all just sat there and said you know what lets just pass the buck... That is everything that is wrong..Minus Monica who asked for more time so questions could be answered but was denied and she continued to fight it with absolute no help. Shame...hope she runs for Mayor. Atlas she is willing to listen and ask questions, all who cares what party is involved, she LISTENED to the PEOPLE.


























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Did Monica listen to all of the people or just the No voters?

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Hmmmm
Did Monica listen to all of the people or just the No voters?
Go away VuVu

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thank you for your post telling VU VU to get lost!

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So the title Melrose Cares: A Community Dialogue is BS? This forum is only for conservatives and no voters?

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If it is I think we need to ask questions and get proper information. Override or not we still need to ask questions.

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Hmmmm
So the title Melrose Cares: A Community Dialogue is BS? This forum is only for conservatives and no voters?
That's patently ridiculous. The reason you don't see many administration supporters posting here is because every time they do try to pass on the administration's propaganda, they are totally and thoroughly debunked with facts they can't dispute.

The administration is scared to death of this site, both now, and in it's prior incarnation. Why else do you think Dolan banned access to it, a practice that continues to this day?

This is the only place where voters can get even a portion of the truth. They certainly can't get it from city officials, who continue to mislead, obfuscate, and outright lie about all things fiscal. Melrose is a house of cards. The sooner that house of cards collapses, the sooner we can get a mulligan and fix the mess we've allowed to happen.

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She presented to the board a way to provide more information and data to the override. She asked for the release of such data and information so that the voter shad it. She did not vote no.. she originally abstained because the data was not given out. So yes she did stand for both sides on the matter and was the only one with the courage to ask why and where and how.. instead of just passing the buck and saying its simple.. She never thought our kids were a "simple" measure like the rest..she wanted more. I could care less about her party as everyone wants to bring up because she gave a voice too many who had none. The people not on the yes train had questions but they were continuously being shut up by ridicule and blatant harassment. Yes people are afraid to ask the hard questions she asked because the yes agenda people most have been rude, insulting and to be frank..without any validity... It is just show us why not.. Are you not the people asking for the money.. You give is 5.18 million reasons why and don't say its for the kids because that is getting old. Monica was right is asking for time to gather information and if we re listen to he meeting she asked for what two weeks to get he information out there before a vote but it was shut down..weird? She never said yes or no she simply said she did not vote either way until things were clear. That is a true alderman for the people. I thank her and she will always have my b=vote and support for doing so.


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Sorry I didn't see this post. Funny you bring this up...People need a digital forum because when in public the people sporting their yes buttons are so overly rude and insulting and unable to listen for any type of compromise it makes it nearly impossible to be heard. I will once again speak up and say that regardless of which way anyone votes the matter at hand is the lack of information. You can say this forum is for conservatives? Your what? Prejudice toward a political party for what reason? This is not about party this is about truth and transparency..Is it not the Mayor who is a leading member of the Democratic Committee putting this forward and was she not elected by the people? The hell with the charter, the people are the voice of government or is that not acquire anymore? The same people who support the school administrators who allowed a kid to be bullied for his political beliefs that he transferred.. that makes sense. This forum is for those who cannot speak out for fear of ignorant reprisals from certain groups. I decided against a no pin because I needed to buy diapers for my son...

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The Administration didn’t want to tape the CC at the LC because then there would be a permanent record. Vanny said the decision not to tape was deliberate because some people may not have wanted to speak in front of others. Really? From what we observed at both sessions, no one at the CC was inhibited in voicing their opinions. Either the pols didn’t want a taped record that people could watch or they didn’t think of taping the CC ahead of time. Anyone for or against this Override or any other governmental policy speak up or don’t claim being shy. If people are afraid to speak on a taped record, then it probably is due to how Melrose ignores questions and bullies those who dare to ask. Melrose Messages is needed because of what citizens and politicians allow. Melrose is far from being ONE either “One Community Open to All” or “One Melrose”.

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TOTALLY AGREE!!!

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So, is this truly an anonymous message board?

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Of course not. Every time someone posts or does anything online their IP shows on the server. What's that got to do with the override?

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Discover
If it is I think we need to ask questions and get proper information. Override or not we still need to ask questions.
We need to have a discovery done on the money that has been spent. More than that the money Cyndy Taymore has cost Melrose with her legal fees.

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GI has always been a Taymore lap dog. Can't imagine her exchange with Patrick regarding the entire budget. She never understood municipal finance on the BOA, only asked simple questions and voted the way she was told. The current fiscal crisis is not in good hands. At least Zwirko works in the financial industry. The female BOA members may regret their anointing of Gail who is in way over her head. She may also regret that she stabbed MZ in the back. Taxpayers always suffer with interim placeholders who don't have the authority, respect or validity to lead. And GI doesn't have the capabilities to lead either. Looks like Melrose may start another nasty Override mess which will only further divide us and result in another defeat.

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The latest on Monica's initial August 2018 request for the Demographic Study and budget forecasts that the Override is premised:

This is the Secretary of State's 11/14/18 response to Monica's appeal to City Hall's withholding of info from her and the citizens of Melrose: "Ms. Medeiros indicates on October 24, 2018, that members of the City met with her and " was led to believe the first demographic study would be forthcoming" and "was told the second one still had not been completed as of that date." The City also indicated that "no such budget forecasting documents exist," however, "the city planned to use Clear Gov but that he had not yet provided them with the needed documentation."


So there you go, the City's request for the override is backed by...Ziltch....and City Hall and the "One Melrose dupes expect us to make such an important decision while they withhold the information we need to vote?? To my knowledge, Monica has still not received the first study; correct me if I am wrong here.

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Is the melrosa City up to no good for City Hall's withholding of information about Demographic Study and budget forecasts? withhold the information we need to vote for sometime April 2019? City's request for the override is backed by...Ziltch....and City Hall. citizens of Melrose??????

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Good on Monica for challenging PDR and the whole rafter of slimeballs who are keeping the unpretty truths under wraps.

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Keep hiding the truth and I even heard people are threatening alderman to vote yes or they will make sure they are not elected again. I am glad someone has the courage to stand against the unlawful tide presented by the mayor..Thankj you Monica and keep fighting..we are with you! We want answers and atlas one alderman is not scared to represent the people and their voices.

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Doing the yes people listen period. I laughed at the first meeting when they were rallying behind yes when there ws no amount, no words, nothing. Yes yes yes.. for what? Really? Vote when you have the facts and information oh wait we still don't have it..keep on voting for unaccountability, corruption and the breakdown of democratic process.. VOTE NO!

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If you want information and have questins reach out to her because she is the only one who will provide...

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How about some Transparency.It is time for transparency.

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Monica presented to the board some seriously inflated numbers. Someone else on here mentioned it and when we looked at it, there are numbers that are inflated and they never answered on it. It is concerning to think what is really happening with the money. I vote no because there are no real facts to vote any other way.