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Re: More Staff Leaving the High School?????

I am willing consider voting "yes" only when city hall and the superintendent's office come forward with requested information on past spending as well budget projections. In the past, they refuse to release this information, even to our elected alderman and school committee members who have had to repeatedly enforce compliance with the State's Public Records laws by filing complaints with the Secretary of State's office. I consider this obstructionist and undemocratic behavior by the mayor, school committee chair, superintendent of schools and other complicit public servants as a personal attack against the taxpayers and students of Melrose. This abhorrent behavior continues to this day and was the primary reason the last override failed miserably. Melrose taxpayers would like to make an educated decision on the override, but cannot if these city officials continue to deny information requests.

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I am willing consider voting "yes
I am willing consider voting "yes" only when city hall and the superintendent's office come forward with requested information on past spending as well budget projections. In the past, they refuse to release this information, even to our elected alderman and school committee members who have had to repeatedly enforce compliance with the State's Public Records laws by filing complaints with the Secretary of State's office. I consider this obstructionist and undemocratic behavior by the mayor, school committee chair, superintendent of schools and other complicit public servants as a personal attack against the taxpayers and students of Melrose. This abhorrent behavior continues to this day and was the primary reason the last override failed miserably. Melrose taxpayers would like to make an educated decision on the override, but cannot if these city officials continue to deny information requests.
It all comes down to trust. Nobody trusts anything those clowns, especially the non elected Mayor have to say. Oh please, I almost puked when I read "dire times outlined ahead" and City Hall: "We can't help schools anymore". Absolute BS. Lame over dramatic scare tactics. Any naive resident who believes this BS deserves to pay more taxes for the rest of their lives with no positive outcome from it.

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Just look at the history of the superintendent as she has not been transparent over the years . A few years ago a member of the SC resigned and asked for the superintendent’s resignation. Now the SC has a disbarred lawyer and ex convict as its chairman. It should be no mystery why the majority of residents in this community do not trust the information coming from city hall.

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Melrose takes awhile to wake up and hopefully not to long this time. It is time for This superintendent. To be fazed out soon.

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I still smile whenever i think of that override getting flushed down the toilet by the realistic people in our city.

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If people think that the override will serve the attended purpose, then they are ill-informed or completely ignorant. While many good educator's have left this school system, for varied reasons, the administrator's have replaced them with inexperienced, sub standard teachers for lower salaries. Look no further than the English department at the high school, or the math department.
People leave positions all the time for more pay, better work environment, better benefits, ect. This is not a unique situation. When used to justify pulling more tax $$ from hard working people it is insulting.

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VOTING NO
If people think that the override will serve the attended purpose, then they are ill-informed or completely ignorant. While many good educator's have left this school system, for varied reasons, the administrator's have replaced them with inexperienced, sub standard teachers for lower salaries. Look no further than the English department at the high school, or the math department.
People leave positions all the time for more pay, better work environment, better benefits, ect. This is not a unique situation. When used to justify pulling more tax $$ from hard working people it is insulting.
Would you ever support an override for any reason? Did you support in '92?

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The reason you don't see many administration supporters posting here is because every time they do try to pass on the administration's propaganda, they are totally and thoroughly debunked with facts they can't dispute.

The administration is scared to death of this site, both now, and in it's prior incarnation. Why else do you think Dolan banned access to it, a practice that continues to this day?

This is the only place where voters can get even a portion of the truth. They certainly can't get it from city officials, who continue to mislead, obfuscate, and outright lie about all things fiscal. Melrose is a house of cards. The sooner that house of cards collapses, the sooner we can get a mulligan and fix the mess we've allowed to happen.

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Awareness
VOTING NO
If people think that the override will serve the attended purpose, then they are ill-informed or completely ignorant. While many good educator\\\'s have left this school system, for varied reasons, the administrator\\\'s have replaced them with inexperienced, sub standard teachers for lower salaries. Look no further than the English department at the high school, or the math department.
People leave positions all the time for more pay, better work environment, better benefits, ect. This is not a unique situation. When used to justify pulling more tax $$ from hard working people it is insulting.
Would you ever support an override for any reason? Did you support in \'92?
I was not here in 1992... why is this relevant?
There have been more recent override attempts

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Just curious about whether or not folks are opposed to THIS override or all overrides. If you don't want to share, that's cool.

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I voted for the large override in 1992 (which, btw, we still continue to pay; it was in inflation-adjusted terms comparable to the current override proposal), and for the middle school debt exclusion even without children of my own in the system. I did not vote for the 2015 override proposal, which was a grab-bag of divers goodies whose incoherence left my mouth agape.

I am open to project-specific debt exclusions for capital construction projects for a policy and fire buildings (not one bond to cover multiple projects - I do not trust the current administration to resist the temptation to hide problems by moving money around), preferably timed to kick in when the middle school bond is paid off (or, to figure out a way to retire that bond earlier).

For now, I lack trust in the school administration and Dolanite insiders in City Hall to support this override. Exposure to the underside of the city's governmental insiderism has done that to a number of Melrosians, very much including on the progressive side of things where there's not a simple allergy to taxes. (To put it in local terms, whereas back Ye Olde Days the late Sue Kelleher (d. 2009) was our local version of Barbara Anderson (d. 2016) and skepticism about property taxes was more associated with one segment of the political spectrum, today I would very say: not no mo', and override proponents would be well advised to avoid assuming things now are like Ye Olde Days in that regard.)

As I've mentioned elsewhere on these boards, the property taxes on my modest apt have increased nearly 13% in the last year, and over 11% in the previous year, and my property taxes have increased over 75% on a compounded inflation-adjusted basis (over 120% in absolute terms) in the last 14 years - so far ahead of anything like 2.5% a year. I am not persuaded that I am undertaxed in light of what an override can bring in the future, but without the governmental and administrative culture changes that would be needed to restore the bona fides of City Hall and the school administration.

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I appreciate the answer. Next question....how do we move forward/change enough to satisfy folks like yourself? Who has to leave the City admin? I wonder how many years it will take. And I'm a little afraid of what will happen to city services in the meantime. Thanks.

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Taymore must go. And the lifers on the BOA and School Committee who've never demonstrated any critical fiscal and governance distance from the Dolan borg*. (Mind you, I voted happily for Dolan at first and then a few more times, given the GOP borg that preceded him - Balfour (anyone remember him? he had the MDC sinecure) would have been a disaster.)

It would be much more helpful if we had a skeptical editor of our local press organs. Local press (hardly unique to Melrose) tends to be credulous of what municipal administrations put out in the feeder, so it's generally just more PR than news.

* I would not welcome Scott Brodeur as mayor unless and until he demonstrated that, either. I am not holding my breath. And I'd want any mayor to commit to leave after no more than 8 years. Ditto aldermen. We don't have a have a charter amendment to demand that. Zwirko, who I had high hopes in when he was running, has disappointed me greatly; he poses well but allowed himself to be assimilated into the borg.

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*Paul Brodeur

So, looks like Driscoll is the SC member you speak of? All of the others are fairly new, and I wouldn't call them lifers. BOA, decent mix of old and new. But I see where you're coming from. Thanks for the info. I appreciate knowing where people are coming from.

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I also voted for the 1st override with no problem! I voted no on the 2nd because I felt too much money going to administrators. I am voting no on this one for a number of reasons. I have an issue with how fast this was done. I would have preferred an elected Mayor to address the override. Also this is a lot of money for one department. I am nervous about where the money will be applied in the future. If the amount requested was less I would probably vote YES. I think it was either Stoneham or Reading that reduced the amount asked and it passed Thank you for respectfully asking why.

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And thank you for a simple answer!

Seems that a large part of the 5.18 will go to rehires (from cut positions), new hires and teacher salaries, and those things will not go away in the future and will need continued funding (well, if those did get cut to put money elsewhere, you'd have all of the "yes" voters going bonkers after working so hard to get more $$ more the schools). But I do know a lot of share that concern. Lack of trust in city govt.

If the override fails again, I think we'll be having the same discussions again, pretty soon.

Stay warm!

Re: More Staff Leaving the High School?????

The reason you don't see many administration supporters posting here is because every time they do try to pass on the administration's propaganda, they are totally and thoroughly debunked with facts they can't dispute.

The administration is scared to death of this site, both now, and in it's prior incarnation. Why else do you think Dolan banned access to it, a practice that continues to this day?

This is the only place where voters can get even a portion of the truth. They certainly can't get it from city officials, who continue to mislead, obfuscate, and outright lie about all things fiscal. Melrose is a house of cards. The sooner that house of cards collapses, the sooner we can get a mulligan and fix the mess we've allowed to happen.

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Whose leaving now?

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Respect The Rights Of Others. Treat others as you want to be treated.

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This is the only place where voters can get even a portion of the truth. They certainly can't get it from city officials, who continue to mislead, obfuscate, and outright xxxx about all things fiscal.

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They are hoping to get lower voter turnout in order to pass it. Everyone equates Election Day to November. They mayor and proponents will suggest it’s because fiscal year begins July 1. However, the fiscal year begins every year on July 1. Think about it. The 2015 override was in November and the citizens spoke loud and clear in soundly defeating it.Their only chance to ever pass an override is through a special election. If the election was in November instead of April it would only impact one fiscal year. The cost for the special election at all 14 precincts is 25-30k. Seems such a waste when a mandated election is 7 months later. Additionally, the mayor has been discussing override plans since last April. She could have asked BOA toput it on November 2018 ballot. However, she knows it would be defeated by a wide margin if election is in November. Shameful!!!

Re: More Staff Leaving the High School?????

The override debate has dominated civic discussion in Melrose ever since the Board of Aldermen agreed to this tax override vote.April 2 2019 Tuesday .

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Congratulations. You just got you Masters in stating the obvious - again.

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Duh
Congratulations. You just got you Masters in stating the obvious - again.
THANKS.

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It could be interpreted that way I suppose. But how about this? Stop swiping METCO funds for use in the general school budget.

The override is going to fail. I wonder what disingenuous snarky comment she'll make then? The expression on her face as she was saying that made me want to throw a brick at the TV. What a tarantula.

Do yourself a favor. Take a long, hard, honest look at the collection of nitwits running the schools. How could you possibly expect anything but what we've gotten?

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Educated and informed voter.We do have.Just to get even basic information in order to make informed decisions on important votes. The voters will do April 2 2019.

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Lesson to be learned: Change.

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Vote.April 2 2019 Tuesday .
Educated and informed voter.We do have.Just to get even basic information in order to make informed decisions on important votes. The voters will do April 2 2019.
Thanks for reviving this valuable public service message board!

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Demand Truth and Accountability.

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Verizon
Vote.April 2 2019 Tuesday .
Educated and informed voter.We do have.Just to get even basic information in order to make informed decisions on important votes. The voters will do April 2 2019.
Thanks for reviving this valuable public service message board!
This superintendent needs to go.It is time fire her.

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Zoom
Verizon
Vote.April 2 2019 Tuesday .
Educated and informed voter.We do have.Just to get even basic information in order to make informed decisions on important votes. The voters will do April 2 2019.
Thanks for reviving this valuable public service message board!
This superintendent needs to go.It is time fire her.
So get out and make your vote matter. April 2 2019

Re: More Staff Leaving the High School?????

Parents should be blamed for some of their actions. I don't think they have to worry it will be the same president again.

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As we have discovered (almost daily!), you can apparently lie despite the facts, and a lot of buffoons will STILL Not have all the facts.

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How can you stop teacher from leaving? More are leaving again. No leadership or control from this administration.

Dolan and Taymore Banking on Paul B. to win then he's all set again.

Monica would never take Melrose in the wrong direction again like Mayor Dolan or Clarke I was voting for Monica anyway her record speaks for her.

Going Against the Odds To Be Successful. Never be afraid to have a little sane touch of madness. Like Ellen DeGeneres now saying what the presidents family face daily is not kind.

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Great post i agree with it all.this democrat will be voting for her.i do not care about the R next to her name its about the person for me and she is fair and will listen to both sides.with me its time for a change in this city and with paul its the same crap we had with Dolan..

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Lesson to be learned: Change the school superintendent . short of this nothing changes.This is for PAUL Brodeur,Hopefully with all your experien you will have a new superintendent

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This is the only place where voters can get even a portion of the truth. They certainly can't get it from city officials, who continue to mislead, obfuscate, and outright lie about all things fiscal. Melrose is a house of cards. The sooner that house of cards collapses, the sooner we can get a mulligan and fix the mess we've allowed to happen.

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It's about being accountable. How can Taymore look people in the eyes and say that she are for educational excellence when she lack a basic understanding of transparency and honesty towards the residents of Melrose.This website often sheds light on subjects politicians.The truth hurts.We all have every right to be concerned.What's going on in Melrose?

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Lesson to be learned: Change the school superintendent . short of this nothing changes.Do it soon 2019.

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Where have you been? She's retiring June 30th. There's no way in hell now that anyone is going to do anything before then!

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Where has he been? He's been busy repeating the same idiotic post over and over and over again under different screen names.

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The administration is scared to death of this site, both now, and in it's prior incarnation. Why else do you think ??????? banned access to it, a practice that continues to this day?

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Concerned Melrosians
The MA Dept of Public Health today started publishing lists on a town by town basis (with rates per 100K people) and by hospital facility

You can find the links here:

https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-cases-quarantine-and-monitoring

The town list will be updated each Wednesday. It's not sortable unless you copy into an Excel spreadsheet, and hide towns with counts of 0-5 (about 84 of those, mostly in western and central MA, but not all). Melrose has 86 cases with a rate per 100K of 297, placing it in the highest 100-110 municipalities (along with Reading and Woburn), definitely lower than the rates of its surrounding towns/cities (Stoneham - 578; Malden - 559; Saugus - 482; Wakefield - 441). Not as low as Winchester's rate of 166. As we all should know by now, Melrose is not Winchester.
Thank you to the person that was able to find that information and put it out here.

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Ted Kenney
Concerned Melrosians
The MA Dept of Public Health today started publishing lists on a town by town basis (with rates per 100K people) and by hospital facility

You can find the links here:

https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-cases-quarantine-and-monitoring

The town list will be updated each Wednesday. It's not sortable unless you copy into an Excel spreadsheet, and hide towns with counts of 0-5 (about 84 of those, mostly in western and central MA, but not all). Melrose has 86 cases with a rate per 100K of 297, placing it in the highest 100-110 municipalities (along with Reading and Woburn), definitely lower than the rates of its surrounding towns/cities (Stoneham - 578; Malden - 559; Saugus - 482; Wakefield - 441). Not as low as Winchester's rate of 166. As we all should know by now, Melrose is not Winchester.
Thank you to the person that was able to find that information and put it out here.
Posting the same thing in multiple threads is annoying. Like a child In the backseat that won’t stop repeating the same thing over and over.

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Thanks! That's a relief!

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People have been asking that question for a long time now. The only conclusion I can come to is that Melrose has the biggest collection of ignorant, ill-informed, apathetic voters I have ever seen. I guess we'll find out just how bad it has to get. The system is already in free fall, and is an absolute joke to anyone in the education business. Who's to blame? Start with the self-proclaimed "education expert" in the second floor office at City Hall

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Melrose Taxpayers
People have been asking that question for a long time now. The only conclusion I can come to is that Melrose has the biggest collection of ignorant, ill-informed, apathetic voters I have ever seen. I guess we'll find out just how bad it has to get. The system is already in free fall, and is an absolute joke to anyone in the education business. Who's to blame? Start with the self-proclaimed "education expert" in the second floor office at City Hall
There is another education expert? Dolan has fallen off my radar but isn't he with Lynnfield? Has Broduer said that he is an Education Expert too?

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Deja Vu
Melrose Taxpayers
People have been asking that question for a long time now. The only conclusion I can come to is that Melrose has the biggest collection of ignorant, ill-informed, apathetic voters I have ever seen. I guess we'll find out just how bad it has to get. The system is already in free fall, and is an absolute joke to anyone in the education business. Who's to blame? Start with the self-proclaimed "education expert" in the second floor office at City Hall
There is another education expert? Dolan has fallen off my radar but isn't he with Lynnfield? Has Broduer said that he is an Education Expert too?
Maybe the bigger question should be.Are we going to continue down the same road.Maybe we have not learned from are past mistakes. This is about education.Maybe someday we have a real discussion.

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Middle class school systems will never be top notch. Looking through these posts is comical. Where do you people think you live, Winchester? Lexington? Belmont? You live in MELROSE. Most of you are just upset because you moved here and overspent by 100 K on a two bed one bath. We don’t have the tax base or the revenue to ever thrive in the education system. Why do you think many Melrose residents send their kids to parochial or private schools. I’m not saying don’t make the effort to make the system better but realize that we are capped and be realistic. There are many other parts of our city budget that need money to, not every cent can go to the schools.

DPW needs money to make much-needed infrastructure changes. All three fire departments look like they are about to cave in and collapse. The police department is so undermanned it’s borderline dangerous. These are just three quick thoughts that come to mind when I hear people trying to over extend what we really are here in this city when it comes to education. Money needs to go elsewhere.

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Reality
Middle class school systems will never be top notch. Looking through these posts is comical. Where do you people think you live, Winchester? Lexington? Belmont? You live in MELROSE. Most of you are just upset because you moved here and overspent by 100 K on a two bed one bath. We don’t have the tax base or the revenue to ever thrive in the education system. Why do you think many Melrose residents send their kids to parochial or private schools. I’m not saying don’t make the effort to make the system better but realize that we are capped and be realistic. There are many other parts of our city budget that need money to, not every cent can go to the schools.

DPW needs money to make much-needed infrastructure changes. All three fire departments look like they are about to cave in and collapse. The police department is so undermanned it’s borderline dangerous. These are just three quick thoughts that come to mind when I hear people trying to over extend what we really are here in this city when it comes to education. Money needs to go elsewhere.
Yes.....a lot of people watch those meetings on MMTV - however, before watching ////// committee meetings - I usually need to take medication to prevent me from vomiting- if you get my meaning!

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