朋友有隻25尺帆船..唔知有冇有經驗人仕有興趣一齊玩

隻船係咪泊白沙灣，嗰度好多人會指教。

我唔係高手，但可交流下 :)

25呎，是Yamaha嗎？

對呀..隻船泊係白沙灣..想搵志同道合一齊玩..又可以學下野..兩位有冇興趣呀..其他師兄有時間都一齊玩吖...

但係我聽人講，香港似乎係10月至5月先至會有比較穩定嘅風... 對帆船來講，而家會唔會唔係太好風呢?

er...現在d風認真麻麻，但好過冇得玩

風預測網頁:
http://www.windguru.cz/int/index.php?sc=4900

我上星期日1:30pm 白沙灘去大蛇灣，牛尾海給起碼20架30-45呎帆船阻晒玩比賽或練習我唔知，三至四級東南風，佢地阻住成個灣，附近要出海的大游艇都要避到左手近橋咀/三星灣左手岸果便才能，我架細船插入帆船中間，成群帆船在我左右，當然邊架食我尾浪佢麻煩一點，但我都夠麻煩。
其實帆船玩比賽，能否不在主要航道上？大清水灣那邊不是更好？牛尾海是否一個合適場地？海事處能否介入？

我不懂帆船操作，得罪了

我冇咩經驗但有興趣 :P

上週六下午於白沙灣出風帆，遇上了帆船比賽。
他們的區域十分廣闊，由近半月灣至近牛尾洲，都是比賽區。我見不到他們近牛尾洲的浮標，所以想走近牛尾洲避開他們，得結果誤入岐途，被他們的快船快速地迫近。
最快的一艘帆船，是一艘大船，於我船頭若100m略過，互不影響，還與我們打招呼，他們tacking真快手，4-5秒完成整個動作，抵他們跑得快！
轉眼間，我的左舷出現了數艘帆船(當時我在科大對開海面，航向吊鐘洲，他們則航向牛尾洲)，其中一艘帆船A與我們有碰撞危機。當時吹西南風，我們Starboard tack (右舷受風)，A船Port tack(左舷受風，跟據海上慣例，starboard tack有航行權，所以我下令舵手保持航向，令他們可以作出調整。
兩船迫近到大約30米，A船上的老外叫我們讓路，我大叫"Starboard"! 意即提醒他們，我們右舷受風有航行權。怎料他們大叫"We are racing"! 我下令轉舵指向他們船尾避碰，結果雙安無事，他們揮手示意多謝。
我當時心想：
1. Racing大晒嗎？比喻說，難道在街上非法賽車，就要全世界讓你嗎？Racing就不需依海上避碰規則嗎？
2. 我隻鐵殼船，你隻纖維船；我隻船42呎，你隻船得果廿零三十呎；我隻crusing船，必定實淨過他們的racing船；撞起上黎，我隻船最多咪凹，他們必定穿，難道他們不怕相撞後沉船嗎？還有，如果上到Court，他們必定要賠足(我有航行權，有有警告他們)

老外比賽，真是認真，連命都不要！ :)

if boat are sailboat, port tack give way to starboad tack. however, yr is motorboat, motorboat give way to
sailboat any at case, not even in racing.

my one is sailing boat

其實我真的覺得帆船在牛尾海比賽是不合理的，是白沙灘出海主要航道。大機械船真的避得好慘，細船如我，也要懂在帆船群中避。我就唔會避到靠岸了，佢地玩什麼比賽，唔關我事，食我尾浪你唔好彩，但我會避到合理距離。

如果是我初開船時，我根本唔敢插入佢地，但主航道是什麼？白沙灘出來就遇到佢地成班。

假設佢地在維港玩，咁人地任何機動船還有得行？
如果佢地知道維港唔好阻人，點解牛尾海可以任意做？

其實法例是指機動船要避帆船，大家機動船遇上帆船實避，但佢地玩比賽用西貢主要航道，20架一齊，點避？

可能我渡假完，好寫信去海事處投訴。

需然我是都帆友，但我都同意Hong兄所講的

牛尾海都算是游樂區域,如果有時間在假期天往維多利亞港,參觀帆船比賽,場面更加熱鬧更加阻礙航道,當你駕駛機動船,有責任避讓他們呢,如果稍為阻礙他們又投訢,種之當他們杖駛近時,應立即停船擧手投降,直至他們離開,但一隻跟一隻都未知等到幾時,驚險萬分極度小心減至最慢行駛,那又如何呢,海事處審批媽,公眾海域任何人士都有櫂使用,遇上意外告上法庭絕對是機動船錯,拉人封艇交賠償,不知原來問題出自於本身,那又如何呢,香港原來是這樣的,有些不顧他人的行為多的事啦,甚麼公民教育講之媽,都是希望各位自律.凡事忍讓退一步海闊天空.

帆船都還好,可以估到佢想點行.....

拉滑水個d友最差,係正中間玩,好鐘意係你船頭橫過,滑水者又吾幾時落水,及小眼都好容易奶野野....有次仲有七八隻係西壩左右拉...行左行右都怕左佢地呀...

滑水怕你的尾浪所以點都爬頭,如果技術好都無甚麼,最衰唔湯唔水,去到你船頭先至識驚,意外由此而生.西貢水域已經變了以前的寧靜優美己不存在,無他人多了,有生意,營業船過量增加,難怪海事處現需要加簽拖曳牌或者方便管理.所以或許在不久將來改往大埔比較優淨.

我都試過。駕駛著帆船，他們在我面前跌低！天呀！

機動船都有後波，帆船實在停唔到，再加上若在d窄位，真係睇佢彩數。我隻船10噸排水量，你唔咪諗住我好快就停到嘛？

boating in the open sea is different to driving car in roads where the demarcations and road signs are relatively clear and easy to follow. So in addition to following the rules of boating and shipping rights, common sense and safety would be important especially some people may not be observing the same. It will be difficult for people who are not familiar with sailing/racing to understand why sailboats are given priority rights in open waters and why they sometimes behave in a "strange" manner.
Having been involved in sailboat racing for a number of years ( not in Port Shelter ), I think it might help to provide you a better understanding if you would allow me to express my 2 cents:
1. sail boats derive its power from nature (wind) and therefore its mobility is subject to wind speed and direction.
2. sail boats cannot stop quickly and have no reverse gear.
3. for larger sailing boats, they require team work to steer and sometimes response may be slower
4. sailing boats have their limitations in going upwind and they need to tack to go upwind. In general they will lose their power if they go within 45 degrees of the wind direction in upwind course.
5. wind keeps changing both in speed and direction and sail boats may suddenly lose/gain speed and adjust their course with the wind direction.
6. going down wind with the kite in windy conditions is difficult to control and other boats should for their own benefits stay clear.
7. now in racing, every boat would wish to obtain maximum wind energy which is the source of their power. The only way they can do this is to stay ahead of the rest of the fleet where they have clean air. In going upwind, no boats would like to duck under other boats for in doing so they would lose its supply of clean air and would slow down their boat. So if you see sailing boats coming into your way in a upwind position, the appropriate course you might take would be pass through its stern or its windward side within 30 degrees from the wind direction. Passing through its stern would always be safer if you have difficulty in reading the wind direction.
8. On all the other points of sailing, try to clear of the sailing boats by going through its windward side and stay well clear from them.
9. What about if a fleet of racing boats are running around in the area. Please look out for the 3 orange marks/floating bouys. Normally, the racing boats will go around these 3 marks. One is placed in the upwind position (the windward mark) and the other one is in the down wind position ( the leeward mark )and the remaining one is somewhere in between ( the wingmark). This is called a triangular course. Racing boats will not go beyond these 3 marks. Therefore if you can stay to the outside of these 3 marks, you will be clear. If you have to go inside the racing course for some reasons, it is safer to pass through the racing boats to their windward side of the fleet.
The above may sound a bit confusing to non-wind sailors. I hope this may help to reduce the risk and frustrations of some readers.

有時啲比賽中嘅帆船真係去得好盡架。我有一次坐朋友架船由西貢去銅鑼灣，撞正維港有比賽，近岸行到北角碼頭附近，迎面有幾架帆船，如果我轉右，就阻住佢地tack，靠左又太近碼頭，結果都係收慢靠左少少去避佢地，有一隻仲要全世界tack晒佢都唔肯tack，直指我地架船，一副「我係帆船，我大x晒，你地機動船實要讓我」咁嘅款，我心諗「人地都tack晒啦，你攞多果少少位係唔係真係咁有用呀?」本來想睇吓佢去咁盡，係唔係真係快到好多，不過最後都係繼續去銅鑼灣，冇再理佢地。

Very detail explanation from sealover, thanks.

To 帆船友

any plan for sailing this weekend? drop mail contact if you want crews.

I'm a new to here, played dinghy for 2 years and interested in sailing boat, can anyone give me chances to join?my email is dikchan@hotmail.com

8 July 應該是Typhoon Series 2007 的 Race 5 & 6，是本地帆船界其中一個重要賽事。而牛尾海一帶又不是什麼航道(fairway)。海事處亦一早知道該處會有賽事，多年來都相安無事。在下都經常在該處遇上帆船賽事，向來都是避免進入比賽區域的。正如你行過球場，遇到有人踢波，你都唔會咁無品行入人地個場啦。出得海玩都無必要跟人爭啦，又唔係趕去送貨。但比賽的就預左出來爭，你話最好邊個讓邊個呢？即使你的船是stand on vessel又有right of the way，撞了都一樣要負責任喔。

Hi 帆船友,
我冇咩經驗但有興趣. How to contact? Thanks.

哈, 帆船小都有興趣喎, 有無用 msn 呀? msn 傾啦.

solarhk112@yahoo.com

最直接方法是參加艇會的訓練班，之後混熟了自然有人找你幫手比賽，再吸收多D經驗，對將來自己買艇又好，找partner又好，都有極大得益。