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Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

DE-PAPPA? I've not heard of him.

There was a man I knew from the parish of St. Mark's that walked around Grenada selling stuff from a suitcase. He was called, Porridge, aka, Poppsie. He died, but not of natural causes. He was robbed of his goods, and then murdered, by a young man from Davie.

Davie is a small community outside of Victoria in St. Mark's, just before you reach Samaritan.

Porridge was a well-known salesperson, who cracked some of the most side-splitting jokes. His suitcase was always filled with merchandise to sell, as if to say, he was a walking store. He didn't care too much about not giving credit to those who'd needed something from him, without having the money to pay for it on the spot. And, funny it was, he never log anything in a notebook in regards to those he gave credit to. He kept it in the back of his head, and did not forget about it.

As a kid, I used to watch him and wonder how he was able to carry the heavy suitcase all around the flat and sometimes rugged roads. But, it was his desire to work hard, to earn a decent living that made him do it.

Porridge taught me secretly, that where there was a will, there was a way! This, as we know, is one of the strongest mentalities one can get along nicely, in life with.

I did remember Porridge when I was writing the story about the men that walked around,.selling stuff from a suitcase. But Porridge was a man for a different class. I deliberately left him out of the story, because he deserved a book to be written on him, all by himself.

Porridge told some, if not all, of the most funniest jokes ever heard. He'd one about a woman, a.man, and a pig. This joke is too dirty to make it here. But it was a good laugh back then, and I'm pretty sure that it'll be a good laugh now!

I don't know whether or not "DE-PAPPA" was the same individual as Porridge.

In any event, Porridge was a real trip; a wise-cracker, and everyone loved him for that.

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

I am stunned by the amount of interesting information you guys have about Gouyave and it's characters in past times and so I read with fascination whenever a posting is made, but being a country-boy some of these characters are merely names to me.

I am moved, however to make a correction regarding your geographical placement of David pronounced Davie

>>> Davie is a small community outside of Victoria in St. Mark's, just before you reach Samaritan.<<<

Whilst the access way to David is indeed just before Samaritan, close to the Duquesne Catholic Chapel, it is in fact some distance away from the town of Victoria and also beyond Duquesne.

David is close to the village of Prospect and both villages, Prospect and David is situated in the parish of St Patrick.

Both villages are interesting because when you visit them you are taken off the beaten path, some might say behind God back!

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

HEY Daniel you could be right about the name porridge,cause I heard he died only when I went back home for holiday,interested cause that's what I use to hear my mother(RIP)call him papsy ,but remember persons who came through gouyave some had several false NAMES LOL.

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

Melo, even the christan names of some people from Gouyave is unknown to most born and bred gouyaman. Nicknames are the ones that are used, to identified an enemy or foe. In other words, one's birth certificate is domiciled, for until he has to travel overseas, or do some form of business, like getting a loan from the bank, ecetera.

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

Thank you, M! Davie's indeed in the parish of St. Patricks. My friend, Norril Charles, from Davke, confirmed it to me also.

Norril said, "the river is the mark that separates St. Mark's from St. Patrick's." Which means that Samaritan is also in St. Patrick's.

Everyone knows that Gouyave's never been a dark place. Keeping it alive coud only do each and every Gouyaverian good. Especilly the young generation. They should know every thing about Gouyave and its past. So they can learn to appreciate the ways/works of their ancestors lived/did, and teach it to their children one day.

Thanks for liking the pace, and information of Gouyave's past.

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

Mangodog, I am making a correction here.

According to my good friend, Norril Charles, parts of Samaritan is in St. Mark's, while the other parts are in St. Patrick's. Norril said, "The Samaritan Police Station is in St. Patricks, and the Medical Center in Samaritian is in St. Mark's."

What I did not realize was, the river that runs under the bridge that leads you to Davie, is the same river that runs under the bridge in Samaritan.

When I was a young lad, I'd visited with Davie twice or three time in every three or so years. I'd no business in Davie, but my step-father was from there. His mother, Tan Florie, and his sister, Miss Mammy were wonderful people. To this day, I still remember Miss Yvette, Miss Anelca (sp), Norma, Clearsie (sp), Mr. Randolph, and.Gerladine.

In the adjoining village, Prospect, there was a wooden bus called, Prospect Pride. It was owned, and driven by Mr. Roland.

Those were some of my childhood days, and they still mean a lot to me!

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

>>>What I did not realize was, the river that runs under the bridge that leads you to Davie, is the same river that runs under the bridge in Samaritan.<<<

Yes. And it is the same river that marks the boundary between Samaritan and Union. Union being in St Mark and Samaritan in St Patrick.

Confused? You will be!!

Certainly the person or persons responsible for the naming of Police Stations in Grenada is/are confused too.

You see there is no Samaritan Police Station. The Police Station you referred to is in fact the Union Police Station, but it is to be found in Samaritan. When you next visit the Spice go to the said Station and you will see the name written in Bold letters above the front door of the Station and I quote "UNION POLICE STATION"

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

I was very confused when Norril explained the area to me. I'd questioned him on how the police station is in Samaritan. Knowing that the police station is on the side of the river, on St. Patrick's side, I couldn't see it. He swore to me that he was correct, because Ihe knew better than me. He'sfrom Davie,.St.Patricks. "Union Police Station" makes more sense to me, based on the location of the river you mentioned in your post. He wasn't disputing the Medical Center,.which stood on the opposite side of the river, in conjunction with the police station.

I'm the Medical Center,.the lady that was the caretaker there was a gouyavewoman. Her name was Ma Mai (sp). Her parents were a close neighbor to me. In Samaritan,.andsurrounding areas,.she was called, Muriel.

Muriel had more than two daughters, but two of her daughters were called, Erma.(RIP), and Christine. Her son, Carlyle, aka, "Stratch", or "I-Jah-Man", were a playmate of mind in eearly days.

Muriel parents had a big breadfruit tree in their front yard. It fed me well into my teenage years. They were one set of family, who didn't make a big fuss about one picking a breadfruit, without asking permission to do it first.

The street just before you reach the bridge in Samaritan, led you to Diego Piece. However, I'm not sure if I have the correct name of it. I went there one time, with Mr. Baldeo. That piece of land was fertile. The nutmeg grew there well! Mr. Baldeo's wife, Carmen, who was from that area, had some family lands there. A whole bunch of Indian people (NO DISRESPECT), lived there.

Mr. Baldeo was once manager of the Box-In-Plant that was just off the Samaritan Bridge.

Anyway, I'm happy that you came to the rescue. Otherwise, I would've continued to lice in my ignoranceof the knowledge I have, outside the town of Gouyav.

Thank you, again! Each one help one, had enormous meankng to me, partly because of you.

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

I do not recall that name ..does Popsie or Porridge sounds more familiar

Re: NAKOODA, KIRPALANI'S, AND BIG WHEEL!!!

It depends on who you talk to. In another parish, he might have been called, by a different name yet. Still, in Gouyave, Porridge was as popular as Popsie.