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Re: NO, MR. UK AND MR. USA. YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!!!

As you well know, Vernon Louison, long under the alias Gouyaveman, has been and continues to be a formidable opponent when it comes to voicing and defending his point of view. But have no fear, stand tall and defend your position likewise. Always remember that all you guys are doing is simply discussing how you view the world. No hard-feelings in that! Who said that you have to agree?

Re: NO, MR. UK AND MR. USA. YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!!!

>>>>>>>.......But have no fear, stand tall and defend your position likewise. <<<<<<

Now that I have time on my hands and is not restricted in any way, I patiently would await a defence of this position because sooner or later, we all would have to "peg the hole" and come to some conclusion as to which side of the fence we stand on.

DNJ was being careful in not specifically revealing his positionin the piece he opined but relying on the History of some two hundred years plus to justify the creation of ISIS definitely is not the direction in which a solution should be addressed.

What say you on this?

>>>>>>Always remember that all you guys are doing is simply discussing how you view the world. No hard-feelings in that! Who said that you have to agree?<<<<<

Indeed! But sooner or later, the "rubber" of the discission would have to "meet the road" particularly as the ultimate goal here is our own existence. I just hope that one cannot expect me to reasonably discuss under what circumstances I am to be beheaded as part of any solution.

VL

Re: NO, MR. UK AND MR. USA. YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!!!

You said "History" that was based on "200 Years"! Clearly, you passed through the 'eye of the Needle' without attaining a single stretch on your body, nor have you done harm to the needle. With that said, how could anyone not remember their history? Even if it has more than one thousand years of book? I.must remember, too, the words of a great man, when he highlighted us in his song: "Two Thousand Years of History Could Not Be Wiped Away So Easily". Unlike us black folks, we forget everything about our past.

I am not condoning ISIS as a righteous group. In fact, they're an extreme Radical Islamic Group. Just today, ISIS claimed a second beheading of an American. Now, it seems that no one can stop them now!

Re: NO, MR. UK AND MR. USA. YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!!!

DNJ,

lt seems like you are making an end run around your initial post by using this one to pivot back sentiment of accommodation, so as not to be seen as supporting an unpopular radical belief. By now recognizing ISIS as a "radical islamist group" and pointing to their latest beheading, you have failed to give them full credit for the treacherous acts they have committed precedingifthis one.

Before I embark on a second mission to repeat my first accomplishment of again, "passing through a Needle Eye unscathed, while doing no harm to the Needle"(your words), I will remind you that just last month, this brutal group held over 40,000 non-believers/infidels on top Mount sinja in Northern Iraq with the intended purpose of starving them all -men, women and children to death for not conforming to Islam.

And may I point out that neither Puttin nor any other country did anything to save them.

Now I ask you (your homework assignment)

Can you educate us by drawing a parallel between these acts of ISIS and the previous ones of Francis Drake and Walter Raleigh and point to their influence on the Middle East of today?

In essence, this was what you alluded to in your original post, ent?

VL