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Re: Mother Country : how 'bad' a 'mother' is a 'bad mother' ?

Verne, nothing more can or should be added to your very poignant observation. Repeating it over and over again seems to be the best way of adding punch to it.

>>What seems to cause the baffle among those to the "right" (Black folks) that tout "American conservatism and individualism" is the acute state of constant denial and confusion in them, not being able to distinguish the difference between our common West Indian values, vis a vis those of the fewer rich and much more powerful fringe element of the real conservative establishment. They fail to realize that there is no room for us (as immigrants) in that group, yet they will try to convince you of all the "sins" of liberslism even when they benefitted tremendously from them.<<

One day hopefully, Caribbean folks will wake up and realize that our type of conservatism does not include the introduction of Jim Crow laws to keep Black people "in their place." Nor does it include feathering and tarring people just because they are black. And it certainly does not include refusing to let a soldier's remains from the battlefield "fighting for freedom" to be buried in the "white" cemetery.

Spotter is correct in saying that most Caribbean people are generally of a conservative nature. Yes indeed we strive to do better and believe that we can make if only we really try. But to say that we are like American conservatives is a cardinal error and far from reality that sooner or later, we all will come face to face with.

And finally politics is in and with every one of us whether we realize it or not. It is inescapable if you live in any society.

Re: Mother Country : how 'bad' a 'mother' is a 'bad mother' ?

>>>>>>......Spotter is correct in saying that most Caribbean people are generally of a conservative nature. <<<<<<

I am willing to give him full credit for that observation but inasmuch as he/she had so badly defined conservatism by associating it with the vitriolic hatred coming from the likes of Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh, I would beg for a revisitation.

Spotter, this is an open invitation for you to come back and teach us something.
Trust me when I tell you "me head doh hard"

VJL

Re: Mother Country : how bad a 'mother' is a 'bad mother'

HEY LADY GENEVIEVE JOURDAINE,following your posts (ARE you speaking for all of US who came to the UK in the early years just like your parent,OR ARE you just SPEAKING about ONE SELF ( Only Asking Just A Simple YES OR NO is Satisfactory)

Mother Country : how bad a 'mother' is a 'bad mother'?

A pleasant Autumn season to you Melo - Just picking up on your spun thread, now, 'Mother' has taught me to avoid giving a respond with a yes or no, 'Mother' wants me to be impressive by putting all offered academic talents to good use, and would get cross if I answer yes or no - and I do not want to upset 'Mother'.

Some of the contents of my post was written from a personal sociological ethno perspective, but most it was based on my personal experiences inclusive of my father - No doubt you would agree, that it would be impossible or unfeasible for me to 'parle' (or write a post on behalf of the West Indian community who came to the Mother Country, after adults were invited to take up employment in factories, transport services and other employment sectors, to help build up the Mother Country!

Every man, woman, child (old enough of course) or family would have their own version of events with regard to providing their own answers to the question, with regard to Mother Country 'how bad a mother is a bad mother' .

On reflection, I will continue with my question, 'how bad a mother is a bad mother' - this mother had to pass laws so that 'black' colonial folks could be at least treated with some courtesy, not straight away, but when things were becoming unbearable for some of 'her bewildered colonial tropical step siblings' years down their journey line - at the time when my father and mother arrived in the 'hands' of Mother Country, they were deemed as black folks....years down the line, poor Mother Country had to make amendments via ethnic monitoring as to the classification of her colonial siblings - black Caribbean, black Other, black Commonwealth.


Poor 'Mother Country', is it because 'Mother' had no Father to help her - would the Caribbean folks had fared better if 'Mother Country' was deemed 'Father Country' - figuratively speaking, was Mother Country a 'single mother' by personal choice because Mother just wanted to rule the waves of her tropical ancestral siblings.