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Welcome and feel free to post as you will. Please note that snarky posts are welcome, and the opinionated are embraced. Go on and post what you may, rant about any actor or topic you choose. Loved something? Hated it? Post it. Hell it is our space not theirs and I abhor sites which breed sycophants. This isn't a church and no one gets venerated. Not even sweet Vincent.

No one shits roses.

(Except maybe Monica Bellucci and let me be the first person to offer to check that for you).

Rules: Flaming the living fuck out of each other will not be tolerated. Neither will anything reeking of racism, bigotry or homophobia. This is a diversity loving site. Namaste.

Questions? Comments? Complaints?  I tend to call it like I see it. If I offend and feel an apology is warranted I will issue one to the person I offended. For instance, if I hurt your feelings I will apologize, but I am not going to offer an apology for saying that I think Orlando Bloom SUCKED in Troy. Not unless he calls me and informs me that my little remark has screwed his sleep cycle. Got it? So please, save your fangirling for a place that gives a shit. I simply don't own the patience.

If you post something which will harm another person or could get me sued, I will warn and ask you to remove it. If you want to sue me, get in line behind all of the student loan people... it is a very very long line though.

Peace. Enjoy.

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Re: Re: First Night of Empire!

LOL Well, I do have to say that the story is a bit skewed from a historical viewpoint. Tyrannus did not exist to my knowledge. Mark Anthony was part of the assasination planning. He was part of the triuvirate that was set up after Ceasar's death. So, there is a bit of liberty being taken with history, but what else is new.

Ok, the belly button armor is correct! LOL That is the muscle curiass that was made of leather or bronze. The style was lifted from the Greeks, who used that stlye of armor. LOL I gave you some websites to check in the write up on the empire page... LOL go lookie!

Fairly good story so far. The part about Romans rioting, grabbing Ceasar's body and burning it on the steps of the Senate is true. That is exactly what happened. My gripe is the size of the place. The Forum was much bigger than what they showed here.

The line about building the Senate was correct, but misleading. The original Senate building was burned to the ground by supporters of Senator Clodius during riots caused by power struggles between Clodius and Senator Milo. Both Senators had been merchants before being elected to the Senate. The Senate building created to replace the burned one still stands today, as a ruin.

Ok. Enough history for today!!!!

Re: First Night of Empire!

NaT, hon, I didn't watch it last night for the very same reasons you're carping about! I f-ing HATE commercials! I rarely watch anything live bec. I can't f-ing STAND the f-ing things and they drive me f-ing INSANE!!!!! Crap promos for crap shows, and loud commercials for crappy vehicles. "Buy this truck! You'll have to work another job to pay for the gas cuz we don't have to adhere to any mileage regs cuz our buttboy's in the White House, and we hate innovation anyway cuz there's no easy money in it. WE RULE!!!! Suck on it, tree huggers!"

So I'll be watching Empire sometime soon and using the remote.

I thought that "insanely gorgeous" comment in the review was your editorial. Wow, it was the author? People mag gave a similar review - slagging the historical aspect (as in, there is none) and giving props to the players. Made some comment about VR's face going from hard military muscle to looking like he'd been crying after watching Sleepless in Seattle. Feh. I did catch glimpses of him last night in the first several minutes and I likee.

Wasn't the leather cuirass back then just a boiled hide fitted over a form of the torso to dry?

Re: Re: First Night of Empire!

Videotaping shows like this are the best. I had a raging fever that night and I was just so glad to have taped it. Unfortunately, I seem to be obsessed with it. I've seen it like 5 times now. Of course for Vincent's scenes whereas I like skipping any and every scene with Santiago. The boy cannot act. What idiot hired him?!

Re: First Night of Empire!

Lil' Santiago's getting better, but the whole Octavian/Tyrannus story is "meh." I'd much rather keep the story in Rome with Brutus and Cassius and the political dealings/chess match with Antony.

I saw the "pleasure boy" aspect of Episode 2 taking some hits on a political discussion site, calling it good old-fashioned homophobia and disgusting. Maybe, but I was actually thinking of the "pretty boy" label that dogged Octavius (as it did his great-uncle). That's why both of them rogered others' wives left and right - to get a more acceptable reputation.

Oh well, what do I know? Apparently there's tons of gay subtext in "House" between House and Wilson, but I haven't noticed it at all. Me so dumb! People see what they want to see, I guess.

Re: Re: First Night of Empire!

That last mention of pleasure boys reminded me of a book I was reading -- "Goat Song" by Frank Yerby -- perhaps the best trashy novel ever written.

I first came across it by accident in high school, and it totally corrupted my little mind. Just bought a used paperback edition for one penny, and it's worth every cent!

Although I usually don't approve of fictional characters interacting with real people during true events, I'm willing to overlook it this time. The plot may seem a bit melodramatic and the dialogue can be a little coarse, but then you have to remember that it's cunningly modeled on ancient Greek theatre.

If you're interested in writing that's historically accurate, but still sexually exploitive, I highly recommend this fine example of scholarly smut. There were passages that literally made me cackle out loud with unholy glee. As a gay man in a straight girl's body (to paraphrase Eddie Izzard), I find it most entertaining, but it should be required reading for any bi guy.

Here's the link: