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Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Is it time for Melrose to join countless other cities throughout the state and declare itself a Sanctuary City for undocumented immigrants? Is it time now to defend these poor and defenseless people against the fascist government now in place in Washington?

We can't wait any longer - even our local churches are showing us the way - with a Black Lives Banner being placed in front of a church on Main Street. It is time to stand up and be counted - in support of undocumented immigration - everyone has a right to be in the US - once they get here! Borders are simply devices implemented by governments to separate people - so unfair! Please support me in this humanitarian effort. Talk to the Mayor, the police chief, the Board of Alderman, and other city officials - it's time to join forces against those who want to stop undocumented immigration.

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It's past time. Then again with the cast of clowns in our local bodies of governance and mayor, there won't likely be any profiles in courage there. The BOA and SC are too self-absorbed, unaware of the bigger world, and scared of the ignorant rumpites in town.

But those Melrosians who understand the world beyond Oak Grove or the Stone Zoo are right to wonder where our local compassionate and morally righteous real leaders are.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Do you people have any idea what the impact of waves of undocumented people coming into the city would be? It is fine to feel compassion, but you are completely naive to not understand how difficult it is to absorb this sort of policy. Take just one small area of the city- the school system. We have so many problems with the school system as it is. A wave of undocumented families would bring many students who would most likely need all sorts of services- ELL (definitely), SPED (at least some), psychological (most likely), etc. Most of the schools are operating with these staff members fully maxed out with their caseloads already. How do you propose we pay for all the of the needed staff? This would involve expanding the school budget dramatically. Do you think an override would pass so that we can give undocumented kids these services that they would be legally entitled to? Grow up and realize that every action has huge consequences. It is an unfortunate situation, but you cannot help everyone.

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Stand up and be counted? You didn't even put your real name on the board. Why don't you practice what you preach?!?!

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That's all we need - an influx of criminals - like we don't have enough home grown ones (Mike Hughes). Nope! Keep the ban as far as I am concerned - even think we should extend it to Democrats!!!!!!

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Go back to Somerville.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Beat It
Go back to Somerville.


I'm from Melrose = home of the moonbats! I wouldn't put it past the moonbats in charge of our city would push this but they know we have a large population of veterans here in Melrose - and they would stop this fast in its tracks - and thank god for that!

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Help our Undocumented Immigrants!
Is it time for Melrose to join countless other cities throughout the state and declare itself a Sanctuary City for undocumented immigrants? Is it time now to defend these poor and defenseless people against the fascist government now in place in Washington?

We can't wait any longer - even our local churches are showing us the way - with a Black Lives Banner being placed in front of a church on Main Street. It is time to stand up and be counted - in support of undocumented immigration - everyone has a right to be in the US - once they get here! Borders are simply devices implemented by governments to separate people - so unfair! Please support me in this humanitarian effort. Talk to the Mayor, the police chief, the Board of Alderman, and other city officials - it's time to join forces against those who want to stop undocumented immigration.


Stop trolling and have another drink. Obviously we are not going to be a sanctuary city. For christ sakes they'll be all gone in a month or two.

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I married an immigrant. I was with her when she took the oath to our nation. I was honored to celebrate that day with her. There is absolutely no way in hell that I would ever support such an effort. What you are proposing is a illegal and it is an insult to anyhow who has followed the lawful path to citizenship.

And take your racist BLM dogma and shove that up your ass, sideways.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Absolutely
It's past time. Then again with the cast of clowns in our local bodies of governance and mayor, there won't likely be any profiles in courage there. The BOA and SC are too self-absorbed, unaware of the bigger world, and scared of the ignorant rumpites in town.

But those Melrosians who understand the world beyond Oak Grove or the Stone Zoo are right to wonder where our local compassionate and morally righteous real leaders are.


I'm a Melrosian. I've travelled quite a bit. I've seen what illegal immigration has done to eastern Europe first hand in the form of the Romani. You either haven't travelled as much as you need to in order to correct your mistaken ideas, or you are an idiot. I hope, for your sake, it's the former.

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Hilarious
Do you people have any idea what the impact of waves of undocumented people coming into the city would be? It is fine to feel compassion, but you are completely naive to not understand how difficult it is to absorb this sort of policy. Take just one small area of the city- the school system. We have so many problems with the school system as it is. A wave of undocumented families would bring many students who would most likely need all sorts of services- ELL (definitely), SPED (at least some), psychological (most likely), etc. Most of the schools are operating with these staff members fully maxed out with their caseloads already. How do you propose we pay for all the of the needed staff? This would involve expanding the school budget dramatically. Do you think an override would pass so that we can give undocumented kids these services that they would be legally entitled to? Grow up and realize that every action has huge consequences. It is an unfortunate situation, but you cannot help everyone.


Well said, sir.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Michael
Absolutely
It's past time. Then again with the cast of clowns in our local bodies of governance and mayor, there won't likely be any profiles in courage there. The BOA and SC are too self-absorbed, unaware of the bigger world, and scared of the ignorant rumpites in town.

But those Melrosians who understand the world beyond Oak Grove or the Stone Zoo are right to wonder where our local compassionate and morally righteous real leaders are.


I'm a Melrosian. I've travelled quite a bit. I've seen what illegal immigration has done to eastern Europe first hand in the form of the Romani. You either haven't travelled as much as you need to in order to correct your mistaken ideas, or you are an idiot. I hope, for your sake, it's the former.


Please don't give him/her more credit than he/she deserves!

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Help our Undocumented Immigrants!
Is it time for Melrose to join countless other cities throughout the state and declare itself a Sanctuary City for undocumented immigrants? Is it time now to defend these poor and defenseless people against the fascist government now in place in Washington?

We can't wait any longer - even our local churches are showing us the way - with a Black Lives Banner being placed in front of a church on Main Street. It is time to stand up and be counted - in support of undocumented immigration - everyone has a right to be in the US - once they get here! Borders are simply devices implemented by governments to separate people - so unfair! Please support me in this humanitarian effort. Talk to the Mayor, the police chief, the Board of Alderman, and other city officials - it's time to join forces against those who want to stop undocumented immigration.


Tell me this is a sarcastic post! Are you kidding me. First of all I can barely effing afford a mortgage in Melrose even buying a house 19 years ago plus water bills and taxes. Nor would I be able to afford to rent and I make $100k a year. So you think we should just allow someone who walked over the border, illegally, and has no visible means of support to live here where most natural born citizens can't afford, on our dime. Then if they commit a crime, say rape your 19 year old daughter or 80 year old grandmother, or kill your husband while oui we should pay for a roof over their head and three meals a day for years. You people are sick in the head. We should just allow anyone in the world to walk over our border and if they make it they should be allowed to stay. The American dream is long gone for most. They are not coming here to start a small business. They are coming here for free stuff. If 60 million people cross the border a year we should allow them to stay? That won't crush our system will it. Again, you people are sick.

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We now know that Democrats suffer from the serious disease of Delusion! They are so radical now in their believes that they now think patriotism and love of country is bad, that wanting to protect its citizens from terror and evil is bad, that everyone in the world has a right to live in the US, and that criminal immigrants should not be brought to justice but protected from law officials! Do these people sound sane? Absolutely not! They need to be locked up in an institution!

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It is horrible to me that a church in downtown Melrose is displaying that big BLM sign. Bad enough we have braindead residents who believe this rhetoric but a church? A group associated with BLM in Seattle said it is time to start killing people. This is a fact. You can convince yourself all you want that it's not really BLM but you're only proving your stupidity. They are a terrorist group. They are akin to the KKK and it sickens me that there are people who give any sort of credence to them.

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Wiser than you
It is horrible to me that a church in downtown Melrose is displaying that big BLM sign. Bad enough we have braindead residents who believe this rhetoric but a church? A group associated with BLM in Seattle said it is time to start killing people. This is a fact. You can convince yourself all you want that it's not really BLM but you're only proving your stupidity. They are a terrorist group. They are akin to the KKK and it sickens me that there are people who give any sort of credence to them.


This only goes to show that the delusional disease of Democrats can be caught by good, moral people! If the United Methodist Church seriously think that this is a legitimate and worthwhile organization - they have some serious judgement problems! I ask - where have their moral values gone?

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Mothers talking at the playground yesterday were wondering if Jessica Buster and the older Indian woman on the Melrose Women's Commission (part of the Black Lives Matter group in Melrose) will use their appointments to push that agenda. What are the Melrose Commission on Women doing?

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Sanctuary Leadership
Mothers talking at the playground yesterday were wondering if Jessica Buster and the older Indian woman on the Melrose Women's Commission (part of the Black Lives Matter group in Melrose) will use their appointments to push that agenda. What are the Melrose Commission on Women doing?


I've written to the United Methodist Church commenting on that BLM banner and if you agree with me that it is despicable - write to them. I am currently having a dialogue with them but they appear to be liberal than moral on their view of this organization - it is shame that a Christian church is so easily fooled!

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As a woman I'd like to know what the commission has done for me.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

If an illegal immigrant is arrested for a crime and has an outstanding warrant for a failed court appearance, including a felony, why shouldn't that person be detained so that immigration officials can decide the next step. The majority of these cases occur with repeat offenders because once an illegal immigrant is released on bond they never appear back in court again. When they are re-arrested if they are not turned over to immigration they will make bail and skip out again. Many of these cases involve DUI's, and repeat DUI's. 2 Massachusetts residents were killed last month alone, one by a drunk driver and one by an illegal immigrant unlawfully possessing a firearm. Both had previously been arrested, made bail, and skipped out...several times. Citizens health and well being are being jeopardized on a daily basis by this practice.

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Sanctuary City Issue
If an illegal immigrant is arrested for a crime and has an outstanding warrant for a failed court appearance, including a felony, why shouldn't that person be detained so that immigration officials can decide the next step. The majority of these cases occur with repeat offenders because once an illegal immigrant is released on bond they never appear back in court again. When they are re-arrested if they are not turned over to immigration they will make bail and skip out again. Many of these cases involve DUI's, and repeat DUI's. 2 Massachusetts residents were killed last month alone, one by a drunk driver and one by an illegal immigrant unlawfully possessing a firearm. Both had previously been arrested, made bail, and skipped out...several times. Citizens health and well being are being jeopardized on a daily basis by this practice.


What is the source for this information? I'm inclined to believe you but it would be great if we could verify such statistics for ourselves too.

Thanks

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Sanctuary Leadership
Mothers talking at the playground yesterday were wondering if Jessica Buster and the older Indian woman on the Melrose Women's Commission (part of the Black Lives Matter group in Melrose) will use their appointments to push that agenda. What are the Melrose Commission on Women doing?


Republican Julie DeLillo led the "No Vote" on the Override and is rumored to be running against Frank Wright for the Ward 3 BOA seat. She is a member of the Melrose Woman's Commission. I'm sure she would block them from pushing a "Melrose Sanctuary City" designation. I'm not sure what the Commission actually does since you never see any publicity about anything.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Wow
Help our Undocumented Immigrants!
Is it time for Melrose to join countless other cities throughout the state and declare itself a Sanctuary City for undocumented immigrants? Is it time now to defend these poor and defenseless people against the fascist government now in place in Washington?

We can't wait any longer - even our local churches are showing us the way - with a Black Lives Banner being placed in front of a church on Main Street. It is time to stand up and be counted - in support of undocumented immigration - everyone has a right to be in the US - once they get here! Borders are simply devices implemented by governments to separate people - so unfair! Please support me in this humanitarian effort. Talk to the Mayor, the police chief, the Board of Alderman, and other city officials - it's time to join forces against those who want to stop undocumented immigration.


Tell me this is a sarcastic post! Are you kidding me. First of all I can barely effing afford a mortgage in Melrose even buying a house 19 years ago plus water bills and taxes. Nor would I be able to afford to rent and I make $100k a year. So you think we should just allow someone who walked over the border, illegally, and has no visible means of support to live here where most natural born citizens can't afford, on our dime. Then if they commit a crime, say rape your 19 year old daughter or 80 year old grandmother, or kill your husband while oui we should pay for a roof over their head and three meals a day for years. You people are sick in the head. We should just allow anyone in the world to walk over our border and if they make it they should be allowed to stay. The American dream is long gone for most. They are not coming here to start a small business. They are coming here for free stuff. If 60 million people cross the border a year we should allow them to stay? That won't crush our system will it. Again, you people are sick.


Got news for you - someone in Melrose, Patricia DeAngelis is passing out petitions right now asking people to sign it to declare Melrose a sanctuary city! It is truly scary to think that we have such people in our city wanting to protect criminals - but what do you expect in a single party state? Delusional moonbats while our President is trying to protect us - our own citizens are working against our personal security - one could call this treasonous.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

NO!

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

I am - or used to be anyway, until hyper-liberals took control - what I would consider to be a "real" Democrat, although currently registered as Unenrolled. I'm moderately liberal on social issues, conservative in fiscal matters, and am a gun owner. These nutcases like Ms. Deangelis are no more "Democrats" than the man in the moon. They are Socialists in the very worst kind of way.

Melrose as a Sanctuary City? That may be the stupidest idea I've ever heard, for a myriad of reasons that should be immediately evident to anyone with even half a brain.

If you're an illegal immigrant, go back where you came from or go to jail for breaking the law. If, however, you at some point choose to become a legal immigrant, as were all of my grandparents, I'll support you 100%.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

You sound more like an old school Republican to me.

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Not really. I'm also a life-long Union member and supporter, and someone who thinks big business is more of an enemy of the people than the media is. That probably effectively disqualifies me as any kind of Republican.

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Unbelievable
Not really. I'm also a life-long Union member and supporter, and someone who thinks big business is more of an enemy of the people than the media is. That probably effectively disqualifies me as any kind of Republican.


Knowing what we do about our corrupt press - you just lost any measure of "common sense" and reality! Given that "small" businesses account for about 70% of our economic activity - you need to re-evaluate your stand on this matter. Without small and large businesses - you are out of work and the country is down the drain. Taxing them to death serves no good purpose!

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Unbelievable
Not really. I'm also a life-long Union member and supporter, and someone who thinks big business is more of an enemy of the people than the media is. That probably effectively disqualifies me as any kind of Republican.


Knowing what we do about our corrupt press - you just lost any measure of "common sense" and reality! Given that "small" businesses account for about 70% of our economic activity - you need to re-evaluate your stand on this matter. Without small and large businesses - you are out of work and the country is down the drain. Taxing them to death serves no good purpose - other than promoting Democratic party job-killing programs.

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I don't know why you felt the need to post that twice, but I don't need to reevaluate anything. Big business's goal is to destroy the middle class and small businesses, which are the real life blood of this country. It's their infusion of soft money through PAC's and other means that has made every higher political office for sale to the highest bidder. I don't think I mentioned taxing them to death, even though it's true that the tax codes are written to benefit them and shift the burden onto the middle and lower classes. It's their ability to buy political offices that has just about destroyed democracy and put the middle class in such jeopardy. Unions historically have been, and to a large extent still are the only protection the average worker has. Without them we'd all be working 60 hour weeks at $3.00 an hour. And in case you haven't noticed, this country is circling the drain already.

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I can't say I disagree. Big business money has put our entire political system up for sale to the highest bidder.

But getting back to the original topic of this string, I also agree that making Melrose a sanctuary city is just about the craziest idea I've ever heard. Imagine if the schools, already in turmoil and disarray, had to absorb a couple of hundred ESL illegal immigrants?

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Unbelievable
I don't know why you felt the need to post that twice, but I don't need to reevaluate anything. Big business's goal is to destroy the middle class and small businesses, which are the real life blood of this country. It's their infusion of soft money through PAC's and other means that has made every higher political office for sale to the highest bidder. I don't think I mentioned taxing them to death, even though it's true that the tax codes are written to benefit them and shift the burden onto the middle and lower classes. It's their ability to buy political offices that has just about destroyed democracy and put the middle class in such jeopardy. Unions historically have been, and to a large extent still are the only protection the average worker has. Without them we'd all be working 60 hour weeks at $3.00 an hour. And in case you haven't noticed, this country is circling the drain already.


Blame the Supreme Court for allowing big money into politics -not businesses! Also, unions in the private sector are no longer useful since they now only represent less that 10% of the workforce - where unions are powerful are in the public sector where which makes it impossible to fire incompetent people - example - just look at our school system - and the bloated federal bureaucracy - that should tell you enough how useless unions are - they protect the incompetent.

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Drink the koolaid much? You'd rather allow people like Taymore to run the show with no protection for the employees? We've been watching first-hand the results of that. Is it too hard to get rid of deadwood? Of course it is, but that's the downside of protecting everybody from the whims of people like Taymore and her cabal of hand-picked butt-kissers. Allowing them free reign is unthinkable. We've been down that road before, which is what prompted the creations of unions in the first place.

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Are You Kidding Me?
Drink the koolaid much? You'd rather allow people like Taymore to run the show with no protection for the employees? We've been watching first-hand the results of that. Is it too hard to get rid of deadwood? Of course it is, but that's the downside of protecting everybody from the whims of people like Taymore and her cabal of hand-picked butt-kissers. Allowing them free reign is unthinkable. We've been down that road before, which is what prompted the creations of unions in the first place.


With teacher's union in place - what the heck difference has it made for Taymore -when she has been able to get rid of anyone who disagrees with her? Taymore and the union have been working together closely - she gives them the raises they are looking for - and the union keeps it mouth shut - you think that the unions are working? Do my a favor - stop drinking the Democratic koolaide - then come to your senses!

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Then this city will be like Lowell, Lynn and Chelsea. Not a good idea but this city is so liberal it will do it.

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Get Real!
Do my a favor - stop drinking the Democratic koolaide!


Someone says something you don't agree with, and your first response is to accuse them of being a Democrat, when early on in the string the poster made it clear he is totally disillusioned with the Democrats. Do you even bother to read for content, or do you just flap your gums without thinking?

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Why all the uproar? We all know this isn't going to happen. There won't be any sanctuary cities left in a few months anyway. Lets move on to realistic conversation.

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Don't believe the hysteria. Trump will only be deporting illegal aliens that are either felons; have already been ordered to leave but have not yet left or those who have been in violation of public assistance programs. All fairly reasonable. Despite the fake news on the left and desire on the far right; he will not be arbitrarily sending illegal aliens home.

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Hysteria
Don't believe the hysteria. Trump will only be deporting illegal aliens that are either felons; have already been ordered to leave but have not yet left or those who have been in violation of public assistance programs. All fairly reasonable. Despite the fake news on the left and desire on the far right; he will not be arbitrarily sending illegal aliens home.


I agree - only the Democrats seem to think that they need these criminal illegal immigrants as voters or potential voters and that they care less for the safety of their fellow legal citizens. Again, this shows their sickness and mental delusional thinking that they would support the criminal element so intently! Not one of them can give a common sense and rationale reason for this support.

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Are You Kidding Me?
Get Real!
Do my a favor - stop drinking the Democratic koolaide!


Someone says something you don't agree with, and your first response is to accuse them of being a Democrat, when early on in the string the poster made it clear he is totally disillusioned with the Democrats. Do you even bother to read for content, or do you just flap your gums without thinking?


Oh please....just another disillusioned Democrat...[:)s]

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

When the vote comes Melrose will not vote yes. As liberal as this city is residents will not allow Melrose to become a Sanctuary City.

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Help our Undocumented Immigrants!
Is it time for Melrose to join countless other cities throughout the state and declare itself a Sanctuary City for undocumented immigrants? Is it time now to defend these poor and defenseless people against the fascist government now in place in Washington?

We can't wait any longer - even our local churches are showing us the way - with a Black Lives Banner being placed in front of a church on Main Street. It is time to stand up and be counted - in support of undocumented immigration - everyone has a right to be in the US - once they get here! Borders are simply devices implemented by governments to separate people - so unfair! Please support me in this humanitarian effort. Talk to the Mayor, the police chief, the Board of Alderman, and other city officials - it's time to join forces against those who want to stop undocumented immigration.


I would rather just talk to YOU! My taxes are high enough already without me having to support more layabouts. There are enough sanctuary cities in the Commonwealth already! They are already in a parade up to Canada, let them go. GET A JOB![:-?]

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Tank you! Tank you Melrose. We over here in ****holia have been eagerly avaiting an invitation to your fine city. We know you have budget issues that make it difficult to pay for your own services, so we totally appreciate it. We know, we know the knock on illegal aliens is that we're much more of a cost than an asset, and that we tear at the national fabric, bust rest assured, we're doing our best on both. Check this out, already adopting Anthem: ..."And the rockets red glare, the bombs strapped to my chest."... Melrose, you have that one for free and we're not even there yet. Tank you Tank you.We shall offer 2 for 1 female genital mutilations for celebration. That's 2 for 1!! Also no female drivers!! Think of the environment plusses. We have no idea how we're getting there since we don't have two prayer beads or a taco two rub together and we're 2000 miles by land or an ocean away. Best guess would be your tax dollars, excuse me, our tax dollars. GO SANITARY CITY!!

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When will we hear from the Human Rights and Women's Commissions?

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Take a Stand
When will we hear from the Human Rights and Women's Commissions?


I hear crickets!

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

We have to be a sanctuary city - to protect our illegal immigrants - where else will they hide? Even illegal criminal immigrants have rights! Is it their fault they don't know our laws and language? How are they to know that you don't rape women or don't murder people - nor steal nor use forged documents or illegally collect government benefits?

This all seems common sense to me - give all illegal immigrants an opportunity to thrive in our free country -get free stuff, and where their crimes go unpunished - it's the least we can do for them! I stand behind my Democrat party in the defending the indefensible and supporting the rights of all illegal immigrants to do what they want in our country. Wow - sounds like they have more rights than me - an American citizen! Does this make sense to you?

Re: Should Melrose be a Sanctuary City?

Allah ALALALALALALALALALAAHHHH.

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It dose not make sense to me either. When American raised child goes back to their country to claim residency, then fills out forms to go to colleges here in our country. They are awarded faster scholarships than a American citizen born and raised in America. So many of these countries figured out how to beat the system and they have. The Marathon bombers had EBT cards and college funding. Enough is enough glad to here Americans first.

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This is a stupid country what is going on in America? We are not giving hands out to others before our own. The system has been broken for a long time so its not going to happen over night people need to be patience.

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The Democrats have shown us their disdain for the average American worked by their overwhelming support of illegal Immigrants even to the point of protecting criminal illegal immigrants in those sanctuary cities.This is NOT the party of JFK any longer!

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If you want to know how sanctuary city policies can affect Americans - read how it affected just one family in Newton at http://melrose.wickedlocal.com/news/20170222/mountain-sanctuary-cities-have-human-cost

The above event happens many times over in many cities throughout this country - it is now time to put a stop to it!

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