Then this city will be like Lowell, Lynn and Chelsea. Not a good idea but this city is so liberal it will do it.
Why all the uproar? We all know this isn't going to happen. There won't be any sanctuary cities left in a few months anyway. Lets move on to realistic conversation.
Don't believe the hysteria. Trump will only be deporting illegal aliens that are either felons; have already been ordered to leave but have not yet left or those who have been in violation of public assistance programs. All fairly reasonable. Despite the fake news on the left and desire on the far right; he will not be arbitrarily sending illegal aliens home.
When the vote comes Melrose will not vote yes. As liberal as this city is residents will not allow Melrose to become a Sanctuary City.
Tank you! Tank you Melrose. We over here in ****holia have been eagerly avaiting an invitation to your fine city. We know you have budget issues that make it difficult to pay for your own services, so we totally appreciate it. We know, we know the knock on illegal aliens is that we're much more of a cost than an asset, and that we tear at the national fabric, bust rest assured, we're doing our best on both. Check this out, already adopting Anthem: ..."And the rockets red glare, the bombs strapped to my chest."... Melrose, you have that one for free and we're not even there yet. Tank you Tank you.We shall offer 2 for 1 female genital mutilations for celebration. That's 2 for 1!! Also no female drivers!! Think of the environment plusses. We have no idea how we're getting there since we don't have two prayer beads or a taco two rub together and we're 2000 miles by land or an ocean away. Best guess would be your tax dollars, excuse me, our tax dollars. GO SANITARY CITY!!
When will we hear from the Human Rights and Women's Commissions?
We have to be a sanctuary city - to protect our illegal immigrants - where else will they hide? Even illegal criminal immigrants have rights! Is it their fault they don't know our laws and language? How are they to know that you don't rape women or don't murder people - nor steal nor use forged documents or illegally collect government benefits?
This all seems common sense to me - give all illegal immigrants an opportunity to thrive in our free country -get free stuff, and where their crimes go unpunished - it's the least we can do for them! I stand behind my Democrat party in the defending the indefensible and supporting the rights of all illegal immigrants to do what they want in our country. Wow - sounds like they have more rights than me - an American citizen! Does this make sense to you?
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It dose not make sense to me either. When American raised child goes back to their country to claim residency, then fills out forms to go to colleges here in our country. They are awarded faster scholarships than a American citizen born and raised in America. So many of these countries figured out how to beat the system and they have. The Marathon bombers had EBT cards and college funding. Enough is enough glad to here Americans first.
This is a stupid country what is going on in America? We are not giving hands out to others before our own. The system has been broken for a long time so its not going to happen over night people need to be patience.
The Democrats have shown us their disdain for the average American worked by their overwhelming support of illegal Immigrants even to the point of protecting criminal illegal immigrants in those sanctuary cities.This is NOT the party of JFK any longer!
If you want to know how sanctuary city policies can affect Americans - read how it affected just one family in Newton at http://melrose.wickedlocal.com/news/20170222/mountain-sanctuary-cities-have-human-cost
The above event happens many times over in many cities throughout this country - it is now time to put a stop to it!
Immigrant assistance has also become a business. Just Google "Catholic Charities Immigration Assistance". Some of the petition drives are funded by organizations that rely on federal and state subsidies for immigrant assistance - documented or undocumented. Citizen safety is not a priority.
Excellent point made- hadn't thought about this previously - although not sure if that pertains to all those small local churches who claim to offer protection to illegal immigrants.
It is shame how the main street press and the Democratic party have demagogue the issue. Every newscast or newspaper lump all immigrants in the same bowl whereas they are different groups - illegal, legal, and criminal immigrants and that Trump is only going after the 850,000 criminals - but the press and Democrats don't want to identify these separate groups because it doesn't fit their narrative - that Republicans and supporters are bigots and against immigration. I can't find a Republican or Trump supporter who is against legal immigration! The Democrats seem to support illegal immigration and especially criminal immigrants - which is mind boggling!
If the quoted article does not fit one's agenda, apparently the new rule is that it can simply be called "fake news".
Hey Bruce - seems like you are someone who can't tell fake news from real news - here is an example of fake news as a teaching moment for you. now listen up and pay attention!
When the main street press called Trumps initial temporary 90 days halt of refugees and immigrants from the 7 countries until more stringent vetting can be implemented, and and which have failed governments and also been identified by the Obama administration as having terrorist training camps and encourage violence to both Muslims and the West - and the main street press calls this a Muslim band when it doesn't include 80% of Muslims living in the Middle East. That's an example of fake news.
Now with that example, Bruce, you should be able to detect fake news when you see or read it. But if you still have a problem differentiating fake news from real news - just come back and tell us and we will guide you through the evaluation.You need to remember that most Democrats will be challenged by fake news - since they were brought up with it!
It's SO easy to get your "balls in an uproar"! You just read right by the "if" (there was no claim that the referenced story was fake) and "ones" (no claim about my beliefs) and went on the offense immediately. Again I say, "the best defense is a good offense" tactic is not working!
I would like to see a true cost estimate of what it would do to the city if we were to become a sanctuary city. I teach in a school district that recently took in a refugee family (one of the families in town is sponsoring the family). The children are psychologically needy, medically needy (multiple handicaps), and haven't been in school in a number of years. It is a heart-breaking situation, and it is very easy to feel compassion for this terrible situation. That being said, the cost to the school system is turning out to be astronomical. We have had to hire several new staff, provide services in all areas for all of the children, reconfigure classrooms to accommodate the disability, provide translators and interpreters for the family. This is one family. Try to imagine the cost if this was large scale. Simply not feasible. Would someone like to call me heartless now?
“Why We Hate You & Why We Fight You”
by Yahya al-Bahrumi
(Former American, John Georgelas, now a leader within ISIS)
Quoted in The Atlantic March 2017)
“The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam.
“What’s equally if not more important to understand is that we fight you, not simply to punish and deter you, but to bring you true freedom in this life and salvation in the Hereafter, freedom from being enslaved to your whims and desires as well as those of your clergy and legislatures, and salvation by worshipping your Creator alone and following His messenger.”
The BOA did the right thing last evening and voted to "file the order" which essentially gets rid of it! It was a more polite way of voting against it - although I would have preferred that they voted directly against it.
I thought that the majority of speakers both pro and con were very articulate and civil during the public input - which is typical of the Melrose that I know having lived here for over 40 years. After listening to Mayor Dolan and Police Chief Lyle - and explaining our current practices concerning illegal immigrants - it became crystal clear that this petition was a solution searching for a problem - only there was no problem for it to solve in Melrose! It became clear that not one thing would change in the way Melrose treats illegal immigrants if this petition was enacted. This is proof enough that this petition has no merit.
Some people spoke about the need for people to know that we are a welcoming community but this welcoming nature already has been established in the fabric of our community by the many different groups advocating for rights of all! Just go on the city web site and look at all the civic and non-profit groups who make up the life of our city - the diversity is incredible. Some people complained that Melrose is too white - but what has this got to do with the petition.
The BOA even acknowledged that the term "Sanctuary City" has many connotations throughout the country and not all of it good. It is a known fact that criminal illegal immigrants use a city's designation as a way to avoid lawful prosecution.....you only need to be reminded about the Kate Steinle case to understand the negative impact such a designation can have on its lawful citizens - and such an occurrences happpen too frequently across our nation.
The BOA did the right thing by tabling the petition - congrats to them! We don't need a divisive petition to show people how welcoming the city is to anyone who wants to work, live, and be a part of our community life.
I also viewed the meeting at the Board of Aldermen last evening and thought that everyone seem to be civil to each other. There was one Muslin woman who spoke at the beginning of the meeting and noted that some of her neighbors were not that welcoming to she and her family and that some of the kids in the neighborhood asked if they had guns and if they were terrorists. This type of behavior by kids is unacceptable and should never be condoned. Hopefully, this is not a normal happening with them. But the petition will not change people's attitudes, prejudices, bigotry or biases - no petition or law can do that - it takes an involved community to make these changes - which I believe exists here in Melrose.
Also, there will always be some people that cannot move themselves beyond their prejudices and bigotry - but this should not condemn a whole community - human nature given what it is. America is a true melting pot of all type of peoples - and more so than any other country in the world! We have nothing to apologize for having a history of being a welcoming nation!
Well I attended the meeting last night and lots of Melrosians came to voice their opinion, the overall majority were against becoming labeled a sanctuary city. However I was more interested that no illegal aliens showed up to voice their pleasure with this petition. I would think that they would want to let us know how great this would be for them, but nobody showed up. The truth is, we don't have many if any that live in Melrose. Perhaps some folks in our community need to realize that we don't have the demographics of other cities that have adopted that label, as much as it may disappoint them.
This was just a social exercise to prove what good liberals we are. It failed. Guess what, this is how you get Trump!
There were certainly many people who spoke in favor of the petition.[/quote]
Well there were about 250 speakers, if I had to guess the ratio was 70% against.
Anyone really interested in the illegal aliens situation needs to get out of living in their bubble and go to Google and the Centers for Immigration Studies for the total picture. Unfortunately, organizations like the U. S. Chamber of Commerce is always lobbying to help maintain the supply of illegal aliens for business that rely on them claiming U. S. citizens who want the jobs are hard to fine
I was impressed by Mr. Hori from W Highland Avenue, a first generation citizen who immigrated to this country as a child. Why does it not surprise me that a legal immigrant, who went through the process, followed all the laws, and fulfilled his dream of becoming a citizen should be the one who most clearly understands the real issue here? It's supposed to be difficult to become a citizen. It's supposed to based on a process of laws. There are requirements that must be complied with. The prior speaker also hit the nail on the head - they're illegal. They are breaking our laws. Is that what we want, or do we want people like Mr. Hori, who see citizenship as an aspiration rather than those merely seeking a meal ticket?
How is it possible for an attorney, sworn to uphold the law as part of her oath, act as a petition organizer to prevent local law officers from cooperating in the arrest of illegal immigrants under federal law ?
Apparently "Crier" is comfortable with the Liar-in-Chief and his cabal of incompetent, fascist, lying lawyers. Kellyanne is a lawyer. Maybe "Crier" is worried about his microwave, too!
Slavery was legal, as were and are many other heinous "American" things. Perhaps "Town Crier" thinks that the laws protecting slavery should have been protected, too.
Can someone let me know how if I decide I want to take my 4 year old son fishing at Ell Pond that I am subject to a fine for not having the proper documentation, yet we are willing to to make a safe harbor for someone who doesn't have proper documentation for being in this country, with no fine?
Couldn't have been happier this thing went down in flames. 223 retards tried to fix what wasn't broken. It's also scary that 223 retards could have changed the entire legal format of our city. That means 29,777 normal people would have had no say in this. Something of this magnitude should be put to a citizen vote. I was very nervous those moonbats were going to pass this.
The best part is, you know the city was filled with liberal tears that night. Makes me smile just thinking about it : )
I don't disagree that the effort was foolish, but your post is offensive.
The Trump bullies here are now reveling in calling those signing the Sanctuary petition "retards," just like their disgusting Nazi leader (with actual Nazis in his cabinet) who is hell bent for the toilet (and maybe a jail cell) based on all the laws he's already broken. Just as Trump reveled in mocking a disabled person, these disgusting excuses for humans here think it's okay to mock those with mental disabilities. Yeah, we get it that he so-called "won," if you forget all the millions who never voted and the fact that he lost the popular vote, oh and that little problem he has with his best bud Putin, that most likely will land a bunch in jail for treason. Great guy to line up with. Shows what eminent excellent judgment these bullies have, and how they are going to Make America Russian. Wonder how many more of Vlad's and Donnie's boys are going to be thrown off buildings or poisoned in the next few weeks (it's already two just on Tuesday!). Putin and Bannon indeed "won" something, all right!