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I am looking for information on the following Gouyave people - enumerated: -
1) My great grandmother - Elizabeth Francis (first/middle name) b. about 1879. Married three times - two names that have been mentioned are Beggs and Roderique. The last known name was Beggs (which I assume was her last marriage). That might have been noteworthy in Gouyave!!
2) My great aunt Rose Roderique (?) b. 1900; married Rupert Crowe. One of Elizabeth's daughters, Rose had two daughters Florence (1922) and Monica(1923) Benjamin with Edwy Benjamin, prior to marriage to Rupert. She probably would have been known as Rose Crowe.
Edwy migrated to New York and eventually, so did his daughters. Their information is from public records (both deceased).
Her sister Ann was born 1899 and migrated to Trinidad (where she lived and died)
I'm trying to connect the family dots with another Gouyave family, with whom I share a DNA connection.
3) Sophia Jardine (married name) may have been born Charles or Welch or Walsh. Sophia was born 1864 and migrated to USA at about 66 years. Her husband Andrew Jardine left her and went to Trinidad. Sophia had two daughters, Louisa (1886), Eliza (1903) and son , John (b. ??). The two girls migrated to USA, not sure about the boy.
Sophia mention her brother Phillip Charles in a statement as next of kin, when traveling.
4) Phillip Charles about 1860?
I believe Elizabeth Francis is related Sophia (Welsh or Charles). There are no photos of these women, however Sophia's granddaughter (who is 87 years now) has a very strong resemblance to my late grandmother, Mabel John (nee Nicholas). Elizabeth was 7 years older than Louisa, but 15 years younger than Sophia.
Charles Greenidge married Eliza Jardine. His parents were
5) Augusta (?) and Phillip Greenidge - they may have been from St. David's Parrish.
Whoever you are, I'm glad to be of a little help.
I certainly can corroborate some of the details you've provided. Rose (Roderique) Crowe was my dearly beloved "Nen Rose Crowe." Gouyave knew her husband as Mr. Crowe without many knowing that his first name was Rupert. Anyway, they lived near the Anglican School pasture off Cornets' Walk; and he worked for many, many years as the driver of the Nutmeg Pool truck until his retirement, I presume.
Nen Crowe's brother whose first name was Egbert was better known simply as Mr. Roderique. His wife, Elsie, was from St. Lucia where all of his children except Joe, were born. The Roderiques moved to Gouyave, Grenada with their two younger children, Jim and Geraldine and where their last child, Joe, was born. They all grew up in Gouyave as I did. We were and continue to be close friends. Today Jim is Dr. Jim Roderique, a retired hand specialist residing in Atlanta, GA. Geraldine lives in The Bronx, NY, while Joe and his family live in Toronto, Canada.
Btw, I just spoke to Jim who told me that he is especially glad to hear about your inquiry as his own daughter, Lucia, is trying to connect the dots in the Roderique family as well, just as you are. Won't it be interesting if you two could connect with each other, and work jointly on that project!!
Feel free to drop me an e-mail (email@example.com) with more details about yourself as Jim would certainly like to connect with you.
Your inquiry illustrates what I always envisage www.gogouyave would have been. It should be the 'marketplace' or library if you will, where folks like you with Grenadian/Gouyave background, could start looking for information about their families. Actually it's largely this site that inspired me to write my book A PLACE CALLED GOUYAVE (available on Amazon) where information like what you are seeking may be found. Migration should never be the reason why relatives are permanently separated, or even worse not even knowing about the existence of each other.
Good luck to you as one of your very close relatives, Dr. Roderique, is anxious to make a connection!!
I remembered Florence and Monica when I lived in Harlem. They were friends of my father and very close relative to Craft
Wow! Thank you for that. They apparently were fairly close to my father, Owen and lived for some time in Trinidad. My aunt says they partied together a lot as young people. However, as time went by, people go their own ways. My aunt lost touch with the nieces after the mother died. I am learning about these folks for the first time really. We stayed by one of them in 1963 for about 1 month, but my memory is vague as I was really young.
Any further info would be appreciated. I can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org
Looking forward to hearing from the Roderique family and Tony. Sent my details via a rather lengthy email.
So.... an exciting update - I was able to connect Elizabeth Beggs as the mother of Sophia Jardine (nee Welsh) as well as the mother of my grandmother Mabel Nicholas. This ties in to the dna connect I got to Sophia's granddaughter - Joy Jardine.
Wow! DNA testing works! ...and the fact that USA has good records. I actually got the connect off Sophia's death record.
BTW, FamilySearch.org is an excellent source of information for the Caribbean
My short yet twisted research has brought some more clarity that I thought I'd share. Gouyave must be a very interesting place and I plan to be there this August for a brief holiday; one of many, I hope.
I've formerly posted that I found a connection to Elizabeth Beggs, now for the clarity.
Elizabeth Frances Beggs, my great grandmother; was the daughter of Elizabeth Beggs. She was also the sister of Celina Beggs and alleged siblings are Sophia Jardine (nee Welsh), Frank Baptiste, Phillip Charles, Seon ?, Chappie?
I've DNA connected to one of Sophia Jardine's grand daughters, a great grand son and great, great, granddaughter, so I'm fairly certain of that branch's connection. Sophia's branch migrated to the USA, and are easily traceable. Of the other listed siblings, based on conversations with my paternal aunt, she met and remembered an Uncle Phillip. Phillip Charles was also identified as a brother of Sophia - I found this in documents on Sophia's travels.
My aunt also said Phillip had a son named Eli, who was a headmaster in Gouyave and at some point went to Barbados. She did not recall his last name.
So Gouyave readers I'm looking for anyone who has heard of a headmaster with the first name Eli and his possible descendants. I'm also looking for Seon's offspring named Eastlyn and her descendants. I'm also trying to verify Frank Baptiste. These siblings may have had different fathers, the connect is Elizabeth Beggs - 2nd great grandmother.
I've been given a link to a 1902 book https://archive.org/details/grenadahandbook01unkngoog that lists Elizabeth Beggs as a midwife.
From my brief knowledge of Gouyave, I am sensing that many of the older families are quite interrelated, that we're in fact one big happy pumpkin vine family.
I've also DNA tested with many St. Paul family members of Grenadian extract, one Ollivierre and one Commissiong! DNA testing is a wonderful thing, though some fear it.
One thing though, the men (fathers) are noticeably absent from names in my posting. Hoping this can be corrected as well.
Would love any input from anyone with knowledge of the folks mentioned in this post.